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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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27 May 2013 08:47 PM
"God is real."
Give me a good reason to believe that.

"God isn't real."
Give me a good reason to believe that.

Niether side has sufficient proof, so I wouldnt bother.
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candicandi321 is not online. candicandi321
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27 May 2013 08:48 PM
What's a niether?
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billiebobjoe3784 is not online. billiebobjoe3784
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27 May 2013 08:49 PM
*Religious.
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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27 May 2013 08:50 PM
Thanks for the fix
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Superme555 is not online. Superme555
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27 May 2013 08:51 PM
@catzilla http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rg7cBkruXw
jesus begs for a difference
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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27 May 2013 08:55 PM
Nope!
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Superme555 is not online. Superme555
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27 May 2013 08:55 PM
yes he does
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Robloxrocks3376 is not online. Robloxrocks3376
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27 May 2013 08:55 PM
@candi

What's a Religios?

Not since the Accident happened...
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AverageMango is not online. AverageMango
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27 May 2013 08:56 PM
Neither side hm? Well tell me OP, which side are you on then? You must be on one side. If you don't believe God(s), you are atheist. If you do believe in them or believe in it, you are theist. You must be one of them.

This is all assumptions but the fact that you wrote why you should believe in Atheism indicates that you respectively slanted towards that point of view. Also, everyone starts off disbelieving God(s). They are indoctrinated - or should I say for those theists, "taught" - that God(s) are/is real. It is your freedom to choose what you truly believe in; don't go to OT to ask. You'll just get trolled.
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Chaostic is not online. Chaostic
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27 May 2013 08:56 PM
"God is real."
Give me a good reason to believe that.
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kind of impossible, considering you cannot really prove/disprove that which is invisible, silent, and non-material

"God isn't real."
Give me a good reason to believe that.
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jesus cuz #yolo.
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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27 May 2013 08:56 PM
Im on kindle, links dont work

So say it right here
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Superme555 is not online. Superme555
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27 May 2013 08:56 PM
indoctrinated is a big word
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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27 May 2013 09:01 PM
@Average

My parents are from Russia, where organized religion wasn't really allowed for a long time. It's a lost art to our family, we don't practice it. But we all agree it is a good thing in society in that it teaches morality and differences between right and wrong.
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27 May 2013 09:02 PM
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27 May 2013 09:03 PM
join us and we will save the world from corruption!
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Chaostic is not online. Chaostic
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27 May 2013 09:04 PM
My parents are from Russia, where organized religion wasn't really allowed for a long time. It's a lost art to our family, we don't practice it. But we all agree it is a good thing in society in that it teaches morality and differences between right and wrong.
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organized religion was allowed, but discouraged; there is a cathedral in front of the kremlin.
organized religion is NOT the basis of morality, that is a common misconception.
there is no difference between telling children "dont steal because its wrong" and "dont steal because god will send you to hell", other than the latter is a scare tactic while the former is honest.
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SquirmyWormy2222 is not online. SquirmyWormy2222
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27 May 2013 09:07 PM
Us atheists do not want to read a big book of fairy tales made by a bunch of old people
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Superme555 is not online. Superme555
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27 May 2013 09:10 PM
stop disrespecting our sacred document, squirmy
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AverageMango is not online. AverageMango
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27 May 2013 09:11 PM
Hm... fortunately you are on of those religious folks that don't use the religion itself for granted. I commend you for that as most people just use religion and them being in it as an exploitation to get to a wonderful afterlife or "Heaven". That eludes the true purpose of religion. Religion was created to as you stated - differentiate between right acts and wrong sins. Nowadays, it is being disproved by science at an ever accelerating pace and people who ARE religious do not comprehend that they might as well not be.

I'm not saying which one is better or which one is worse. I am merely presenting the cons of the religious side of society in modern times.

As for it being an art, I agree to a limited extent because after the Renaissance enlightenment, people came to forget about how God supposedly abandoned them during the Black Death Plague and once more, it overtook art, the sciences, and literature. I believe it is a misconception of religion being an art but works either way around itself. Quoted from "Imagining Religion" by Johnathan Z. Smith:

“...while there is a staggering amount of data, phenomena, of human experiences and expressions that might be characterized in one culture or another, by one criterion or another, as religion — there is no data for religion. Religion is solely the creation of the scholar’s study. It is created for the scholar’s analytic purposes by his imaginative acts of comparison and generalization. Religion has no existence apart from the academy.”

Some have argued that religion isn't hard to define and the plethora of conflicting definitions is evidence of how easy it really is. The problem lies in finding a definition that is empirically useful and empirically testable. So far, the best definition of religion I have seen is in The Encyclopedia of Philosophy. It lists traits of religions rather than declaring religion to be one thing or another, arguing that the more markers present in a belief system, the more”religious like” it is:

- Belief in supernatural beings (gods).
- A distinction between sacred and profane objects.
- Ritual acts focused on sacred objects.
- A moral code believed to be sanctioned by the gods.
- Characteristically religious feelings (awe, sense of mystery, sense of guilt, adoration), which tend to be aroused in the presence of sacred objects and during the practice of ritual, and which are connected in idea with the gods.
- Prayer and other forms of communication with gods.
- A world view, or a general picture of the world as a whole and the place of the individual therein. This picture contains some specification of an over-all purpose or point of the world and an indication of how the individual fits into it.
- A more or less total organization of one’s life based on the world view.
- A social group bound together by the above.
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Dalziellian is not online. Dalziellian
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27 May 2013 09:13 PM
"Us atheists do not want to read a big book of fairy tales made by a bunch of old people"

No you want publications from hip young people like Dawkins Degrasse and Darwin
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AverageMango is not online. AverageMango
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27 May 2013 09:13 PM
@Chaostic, I very much agree with you. It's a mere way of controlling you to do the Church's bidding.
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Chaostic is not online. Chaostic
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27 May 2013 09:16 PM
Us atheists do not want to read a big book of fairy tales made by a bunch of old people"

No you want publications from hip young people like Dawkins Degrasse and Darwin
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>young hip people
darwin died in 1882
richard dawkins is 72 years old
neil degrasse tyson is 54
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Catzilla99 is not online. Catzilla99
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27 May 2013 09:16 PM
Sooo

I guess Average and I agree

Religion was allowed, but not really in my family, where it was forbidden for two generations.
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Dalziellian is not online. Dalziellian
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27 May 2013 09:17 PM
"darwin died in 1882
richard dawkins is 72 years old
neil degrasse tyson is 54"

i see you are well versed in the ways of sarcasm
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Chaostic is not online. Chaostic
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27 May 2013 09:18 PM
"darwin died in 1882
richard dawkins is 72 years old
neil degrasse tyson is 54"

i see you are well versed in the ways of sarcasm
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if by sarcasm you mean common sense
then yes
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