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Re: RGRM: Security & Intelligence Division Reforms

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hunter7777 is not online. hunter7777
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24 May 2013 05:11 PM
The Republic's 401st are soon to undergo reformation. After apparent flaw being brought to the attention of our high command, it has been decided to institute three amendments:

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1. All members will be hand-picked by the high command.

[[REASON]] - This amendment will act as a filter against soldiers of unfit integrity for security and authority positions.

[[DESCRIPTION]] - Basically, if they are abusive, power-hungry, or have a poor record, they will be disqualified and unable to serve in the Security & Intelligence division. Furthermore, possible candidates will have to display an aptitude for a division position to be accepted. (It is possible that we may allow applications and join requests at a later date.) **Members who are presently in the 401st may be removed/kept under suspension or evaluated to keep their positions.**
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2. The "Director" and any form of leadership position will be abolished.

[[REASON]] - This amendment serves to make the 401st's judgement and punishment quicker and more efficient. Having only a *single* leader to filter, organize, and coordinate an entire Division's worth of soldiers is a trying enough duty as it is. The fact that the same person may also have to handle and distribute their judgement to every length of conflict among our great Republic is over-encumbering of one person alone.

[[DESCRIPTION]] - The "Director" and other forms of *single* leadership will be removed. They will be replaced by the entirety of our high command. Battalion Commanders and up will be tasked with devising a verdict for any cases that are brought to their attention by 401st operatives.
(Any judgement may be over ruled by a higher rank or 3 peers/subordinates if it is undeservingly harsh, lacks sense, or is made with ill intent. Essentially, don't accept the case if you believe you're biased towards one or another side, don't be too cruel, use your common sense.)
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3. Official and clear regulations will be made on the authority of any 401st member.

[[REASON]] - Regulations are heavily necessary to the efficient operation of any organized institution, particularly ones dealing in judicial and executive affairs. In the past our members have been subject to abuse and exploitation by corrupt officials and poor decisions. The purpose of this third amendment is to prevent those types of abuse and exploitation.

[[DESCRIPTION]] - These regulations will clearly define the authority of the 401st and its members. What they should do in certain common situations and how to approach them. A thread will be released containing these regulations and is currently being worked on by some of our high command. Feel free to submit your suggestions here: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=95966865
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Approved by:
~CC-088, Supreme Commander Chimo
~CC-1136, General Hunter
~ARC/RC-11374265, General Sharp
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Shadowman104 is not online. Shadowman104
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24 May 2013 05:19 PM
>This amendment serves to make the 401st's judgement and punishment quicker and more efficient. Having only a *single* leader to filter, organize, and coordinate an entire Division's worth of soldiers is a trying enough duty as it is. The fact that the same person may also have to handle and distribute their judgement to every length of conflict among our great Republic is over-encumbering of one person alone.

The fact I am able to do it alone just fine says otherwise, this is COMPLETELY unneeded
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Shadowman104 is not online. Shadowman104
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24 May 2013 05:21 PM
>The "Director" and other forms of *single* leadership will be removed. They will be replaced by the entirety of our high command. Battalion Commanders and up will be tasked with devising a verdict for any cases that are brought to their attention by 401st operatives.

Also THIS IS THEE worst idea for 401st, most of the HIGHCOMMAND will release classified files to the public, which I DO NOT want. I also highly disagree with newer members being put into the ranks of the 401st, as all the men can do the job just fine as I have seen. If you give them time during summer to get active they can show as such
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Tiphmeister is not online. Tiphmeister
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24 May 2013 05:22 PM
Very well written and interpreted. Now, the real test will come with the implementation of these ideologies. Good Luck, we as members of the Republic are counting on it.
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Shadowman104 is not online. Shadowman104
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24 May 2013 05:27 PM
Now within the past two months 401st has shown to me that they are able to do much more than just their job after many scoutings and or intel gatherings on hostiles. Which is why I am RECOMMENDING HIGHLY that you keep 401st AS IT IS. This reform is unneeded and should be declared *inappropriate*.
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Shadowman104 is not online. Shadowman104
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24 May 2013 05:31 PM
Now if you give us one more month, we'll ABSOLUTELY be able to show you this reform is ABSOLUTELY not needed.
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frogy117 is not online. frogy117
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24 May 2013 05:34 PM
I agree with this reform.
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Shadowman104 is not online. Shadowman104
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24 May 2013 05:35 PM
^ Of course you agree, all you want is the intel to release, as you've done before in the past when you were given intel.
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kmaheynoway is not online. kmaheynoway
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24 May 2013 06:03 PM
^Of course you disagree, because they remove your power hungry leadership

hi
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Shadowman104 is not online. Shadowman104
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24 May 2013 06:06 PM
Power hungry leadership? No, I'm disagreeing with this reform due to it being unneeded in 401st
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Delta15038 is not online. Delta15038
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24 May 2013 06:20 PM

No.

No forced reforms.

That goes against our principles as a Republic, and then transforms us into Imperialists.

No.
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hunter7777 is not online. hunter7777
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24 May 2013 06:40 PM
It's apparent that you feel very strongly about this matter, Commander. Your opinions and advisories are noted. Though, I believe you may be misinterpreting the way the plans take effect.

I will address your concerns in order of time:

You do have experience and have proven yourself capable of managing the 401st to filter, organize, and coordinate as well as handling and distributing judgement.
However, you are not unlimited in the amount of time you have available to manage these matters. In other words, our focus is not that you can't do it, it is that it can be done better with your help and the help of others.

The argument that this is unnecessary is valid. It is not broken, so why should we attempt to fix it?
The answer is improvement, Commander. The definition and objective of reformation is improvement:
To make changes in (something, typically a social, political, or economic institution or practice) in order to improve it. Any policy of complacency in the matter of reformation is to be left unadopted. (And likewise, if it doesn't work better, we return to the original method.)


About the next concern, classified content will remain classified or those who distribute classified content without proper authority to do so will be met with heavy punishment. Any additions or removals from the 401st member-wise will be left to the judgement of our high command, as it has always been. We're only asserting our authority to do so now as an official possibility and warning to future/present members.
You only have to be worried about your position in the division if you have given our high command a reason to remove you. The same goes for all current members of the 401st.
Inevitably, there are going to be new members in the 401st. The only difference is that everyone ranked B. Com.+ will have the ability to recommend good candidates.

If you still have any concerns and are not satisfied, I'll do my best to continue to help you in whatever way I can, Commander. Just contact me.

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hunter7777 is not online. hunter7777
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24 May 2013 06:45 PM
I'd like to add that you'll still be able to operate within the 401st at your current capacity, except your title as director is being retired and the additional power that the Director holds is being distributed to B. Com.+.
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chrislbragg is not online. chrislbragg
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24 May 2013 07:37 PM
I'm in support.
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Tiphmeister is not online. Tiphmeister
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24 May 2013 10:31 PM
I just can't help but laugh about the so called classified information being leaked. How classified can anything be on an online game? Sorry it's just too funny. Oh and Delata, an owner of a group does whatever he wants whether it is a Republic or not.
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AliveSparta13 is not online. AliveSparta13
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25 May 2013 01:39 AM
I agree that the 401st may need a reform, with newer policies on how to approach our Republic's problems and issues.
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WonderfulGlorious is not online. WonderfulGlorious
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25 May 2013 06:15 AM
I agree, but I don't think the 401st will report things to commanders other then shadow due to the fact they are so loyal to him.
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admiralsharp is not online. admiralsharp
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25 May 2013 06:52 AM
@Tip, You'd be surprised how many classified things i have, and still are classified, since 2 years ago.
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Shadowman104 is not online. Shadowman104
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25 May 2013 07:46 AM
Fact is I do not need help in 401st, plain and simple
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Shadowman104 is not online. Shadowman104
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25 May 2013 07:48 AM
And I laugh at how Alive and Tiph want this reform even though they've had things done to them by 401st. Example, 401st in Tiph's RGRM

401st arresting Alive
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Jiangdow43 is not online. Jiangdow43
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25 May 2013 08:04 AM
I support as a retired soldier.
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chrislbragg is not online. chrislbragg
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25 May 2013 10:17 AM
I also suggest a split between the Security and Intelligence sides of the 401st. Two different Groups.
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layteealt is not online. layteealt
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25 May 2013 09:27 PM
True that, tiph. But we are not talking about intelligence here, simply confidential matter, just like in real life judicial systems.
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xavierf5 is not online. xavierf5
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26 May 2013 01:06 AM
Ooooooooh Shiny *_* I find it rather funny that shadow is trying to prevent the uncovering of classified information *_*
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xavierf5 is not online. xavierf5
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26 May 2013 01:08 AM
I totally agree it's completely ridiculous. It's just a game o_o when we al become adults we will abandon Roblox and say were to old for this o_o
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