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Re: Don't Open Source ROBLOX

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uyjulian is not online. uyjulian
Joined: 29 Nov 2012
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23 May 2013 11:12 AM
I hate waiting ages for a new version of roblox, I wish I could add my own features o.e
Do you think open-source ROBLOX is good or not?
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ArceusInator is not online. ArceusInator
Joined: 10 Oct 2009
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23 May 2013 11:16 AM
No because then everyone in this forum could make a much better version of roblox and they'd lose money.
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ElectricBlaze is not online. ElectricBlaze
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23 May 2013 11:24 AM
@Arceus - So we're reliant on the current ROBLOX to make a better ROBLOX? Right...

http://wiki.roblox.com/index.php/User:ElectricBlaze
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jobro13 is not online. jobro13
Joined: 05 Aug 2009
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23 May 2013 11:34 AM
Absolutely right. I would unlock a lot of functions and add some very, very, very basic things such as just changing BrickColors to Color3 properties for more freedom.
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RaidenJPN is not online. RaidenJPN
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23 May 2013 11:36 AM
It's a great idea, but we all know that what you ask will never happen.
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jobro13 is not online. jobro13
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23 May 2013 11:40 AM
They won't let it happen. Come on guys, it's a business.

You think Lays is gonna open source their chips recipe? You think coca cola is gonna do that? Microsoft then?

No.

Because why??

Money.
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batistapowerbonbtla is not online. batistapowerbonbtla
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23 May 2013 11:44 AM
No
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uyjulian is not online. uyjulian
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23 May 2013 11:49 AM
roblox doesn't want to open source maybe because they are too busy making money
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Quenty is not online. Quenty
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23 May 2013 12:30 PM
Well, it'd be nice, but I'm sure a few things would quickly become apparent:

1) ROBLOX has a _lot_ of security gaps, hidden, just because no one's found them yet.
2) ROBLOX doesn't have enough skilled programmers sitting around waiting to submit fixes, changes, and optimizations to it.
3) Most fixes / submissions would probably be horrible code, or just plain stupid.

A great idea would to have Sorcus release some core scripts (or just allow us to submit fixes to his core scripts) on github or something, so we can actually improve them. I know there's an issue with his ringbuffer in the chat script, because I rewote it, and I also know adding whisper chat is quite easy, as well as several other features and fixes.

Also, there _are_ competent scripters in Lua on ROBLOX, and the core scripts can already be read, so ROBLOX isn't exactly losing anything. Why can't those things be on github?
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jobro13 is not online. jobro13
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23 May 2013 12:35 PM
^Agreed.

I'd also like to use a bug-free CoreGui, but roblox forces us to use their one.
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ArceusInator is not online. ArceusInator
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23 May 2013 12:40 PM
"release some core scripts (or just allow us to submit fixes to his core scripts) on github or something, so we can actually improve them"

You can see the CoreScript code. It's not hidden or anything.
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jobro13 is not online. jobro13
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23 May 2013 12:41 PM
Quote Quenty:
"...and the core scripts can already be read..."
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batistapowerbonbtla is not online. batistapowerbonbtla
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23 May 2013 12:53 PM
I actually like Quenty's idea

But on one condition:
Only a select few will have access to the code

For example:
Quenty
ArceusInator
SN0X
Tenal
Prehistoricman
etc...

The users will need to have a highly advanced knowledge of RBX.Lua and be trusted enough to not release the code to other users

With the help of those users, Roblox's future will look good
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uyjulian is not online. uyjulian
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23 May 2013 12:56 PM
Why not EVERYBODY can see the code so EVERYBODY can see the flaws and fix them themselves?
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toshir0z is not online. toshir0z
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23 May 2013 02:28 PM
Why not allow custom HUD in games through serverscripts(More Secure)
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uyjulian is not online. uyjulian
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23 May 2013 02:31 PM
Because... if it was on the server, nobody would be able to see it..?
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batistapowerbonbtla is not online. batistapowerbonbtla
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23 May 2013 02:32 PM
Because 99.5% of Robloxians can't even find what is causing an error, let alone fix it
Even the .5% would still have some trouble with a lot of stuff, sometimes probably not even being able to fix it
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uyjulian is not online. uyjulian
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23 May 2013 02:33 PM
I bet they rarely build/script or they use free models, or they are lazy.
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Dr01d3k4 is not online. Dr01d3k4
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23 May 2013 02:33 PM
Just because they won't know the error, doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to lookk.
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uyjulian is not online. uyjulian
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23 May 2013 02:43 PM
Well, how about waiting AGES for bugs to get fixed, or for new features? (I want Gui stretching)
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dekkonot is not online. dekkonot
Joined: 22 Dec 2010
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23 May 2013 06:15 PM
Wait a second...why am I not on that list up there? I feel insulted slightly.

~ Non simpliciter Latinam legere ~
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
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23 May 2013 06:17 PM
@dekk - Same. I was replaced by Tenal...

:l
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booing is not online. booing
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23 May 2013 06:18 PM
@tbl
To be honest, popin would be the only one who would actually do something useful with it.
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Prehistoricman is not online. Prehistoricman
Joined: 20 Sep 2008
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23 May 2013 06:22 PM
I would be like "wut" and just remove all the junk code in their Lua loaders.
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dekkonot is not online. dekkonot
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23 May 2013 06:24 PM
I would remove the "if false then"s.

~ Non simpliciter Latinam legere ~
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