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Re: Mumford and Sons.

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pickle099223 is not online. pickle099223
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23 May 2013 08:24 PM
Probably one of the most talented bands that has ever been in the mainstream public. They are real musicians, unlike other artists ( Lil Wayne, Selena Gomez etc.)

Give me your opinions on them.
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Crash6351 is not online. Crash6351
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23 May 2013 08:26 PM
"They are real musicians, unlike other artists ( Lil Wayne, Selena Gomez etc.)"

Just because you don't like them doesn't mean they aren't "real"

They aren't that great anyway.
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pickle099223 is not online. pickle099223
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23 May 2013 08:34 PM
They are because they use real instruments themselves (Even the singer). Lil Wayne and Selena Gomez either sing (Selena) or rap (Lil Wayne) over an instrumental implemented into the track. Autotune is usually involved with those types of artists anyways.
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johnb is not online. johnb
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23 May 2013 08:36 PM
The instrumental contains samples and synths and is therefore not real because it wasn't produced with guitars and a REAL drum set in some amateur studio.

Ok, let me say this again:

Real musik - musik produced with REAL instruments and has HEART!

Hybrid musik - musik that contains samples of REAL instruments but is arranged electronically in a sequencer, ie Burial

Fake musik - all synths and no love like Aphexxx Twins
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S4NT3R1A is not online. S4NT3R1A
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23 May 2013 08:37 PM
@Crash: Sorry, OP is right.

"music, n- an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color."-Dictionary.com

Lil Wayne and Selena Gomez aren't real musicians. Their "music" is made by producers unrelated to them in a scheme to bring as much money in to a record label as possible. They're pawns hired almost entirely for their image, no skill, talent, or even a want to be a musician needed. Music is meant to express how the author feels or thinks. What pop artists produce is trash used to bring in money.

But you're also right. Mumford and Sons isn't that great anyway. In fact, they're just as bad.
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pickle099223 is not online. pickle099223
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23 May 2013 08:37 PM
Are you saying that Mumford and Sons uses Samples and Synths or Pop music?
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ScagsTheHobo is not online. ScagsTheHobo
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23 May 2013 08:38 PM
can human voice be counted as an instrument i've always wondered
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S4NT3R1A is not online. S4NT3R1A
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23 May 2013 08:39 PM
@Pickle: Mumford and Sons is pop music, now at least. They've sold out.
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pickle099223 is not online. pickle099223
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23 May 2013 08:39 PM
Scags,

If it's put into the instrumental, yes. Usually that's for background vocals.
The Acapella is the main vocals.
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pickle099223 is not online. pickle099223
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23 May 2013 08:40 PM
They're not pop. They're a folk band. Just because they had a couple hits doesn't classify them as pop music.
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johnb is not online. johnb
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23 May 2013 08:42 PM
I know right! Real musik is meant to be all deep MEDi and stuff and its supposed to shake your wobbleyoi in emotional ways. Why, I listen to Jimi Hendrix and the Cream because they are REAL musikians cause they write their own stuff and do not DARE use synths or sample some jazz track.

Nu musik (the genre of musik being spat out from your radio) is a blight on the industry and it needs to be eradicated by a "real musik/old musik/good musik (not to be confused with G.O.O.D. Music, which is bad musik) renaissance.
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RegularMatthew43 is not online. RegularMatthew43
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23 May 2013 08:43 PM
"They are because they use real instruments themselves (Even the singer). Lil Wayne and Selena Gomez either sing (Selena) or rap (Lil Wayne) over an instrumental implemented into the track. Autotune is usually involved with those types of artists anyways."

Chevelle..
Green Day..
Much more talented then them.
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pickle099223 is not online. pickle099223
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23 May 2013 08:44 PM
RegularMatthew,

Neither of those artists have had
success in a while.
That's an opinion anyways.

-Pickle
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johnb is not online. johnb
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23 May 2013 08:45 PM
Green Day are such sell outs bro! I bet they even have producers and mastering engineers, which makes them FAKE because they a) do not do everything themselves and b) have no more creativity and rely on others to make their musik while they fill up their coffers with dirty Israeli shekels.
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DrAwsomeMonkey is not online. DrAwsomeMonkey
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23 May 2013 08:48 PM
Autism: The Thread II: Spreading the Cancer
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RegularMatthew43 is not online. RegularMatthew43
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23 May 2013 08:50 PM
"Neither of those artists have had
success in a while."

Hats Off To The Bull was Chevelle's most popular album. And it was just released a few years ago.
What are you talking about?
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pickle099223 is not online. pickle099223
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23 May 2013 08:51 PM
John,

I will give credit to Green Day. They play their own instruments.
But yeah, granted there is synth involved.

-Pickle
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DwoTimensional is not online. DwoTimensional
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23 May 2013 08:51 PM
mumford and sons is bad imo

the only people ive even met that liked them are in the same boat as the "i love imagine dragons, theyre so obscure :^)" peeps
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DrAwsomeMonkey is not online. DrAwsomeMonkey
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23 May 2013 08:52 PM
OP, would you agree that a Keyboard is an instrument?
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GabaraMihal is not online. GabaraMihal
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23 May 2013 08:52 PM
mumford and sons is vapid indie folk

i prefer bon iver and mount eerie
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ScagsTheHobo is not online. ScagsTheHobo
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23 May 2013 08:52 PM
:^)
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johnb is not online. johnb
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23 May 2013 08:54 PM
Oh my god it is confimred! There is synth involved! OMG THERE IS SYNTH INVOLVED!

God I hate this generation! It's a generation that expects computers and machines to make their musik, not guitars. The real musik making machines are guitars.

I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW FAR GREEN DAY HAVE STOOPED! Here's a little fact of life I've observed: when a band starts to use synthesizers, or FAKE instruments that a) takes no skill to use and ) is cold and digital, then the band has officially sold out. There is no more artistic merit in their tunes. They might as well have signed up with the devil.

This is why I hate green day and other bands that no longer make real, authentic, genuine musik.
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GabaraMihal is not online. GabaraMihal
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23 May 2013 08:55 PM
im so indeh!!!! m&s ftw!!
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johnb is not online. johnb
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23 May 2013 08:56 PM
Woo mumford and sons! REAL MUSIK FTW GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DwoTimensional is not online. DwoTimensional
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23 May 2013 08:57 PM
"im so indeh!!!! m&s ftw!!"

night visions best album of teh year!1 :0
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