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| 19 May 2013 01:04 PM |
It's time to unfold the reason why AD and EoT fight. I personally agree with both sides of the argument. Some points that both leaders have made are very true, whereas others can be totally false. So, let's get this started. If you feel the need to tl;dr, a brief summary is at the very bottom, go ahead and check that out.
Poisoncrow. Leader of the Aldmeri Dominion. According to Poison. he likes EoT's members, but he hates the group itself, mostly its leader. Poison states that "EoT does not have laws that are followed...", which is somewhat true. My views on this show that a lot of Imperials disobey laws, which is natural and it happens in AD, and just about every other group too.
"EoT's punishments are not really punishments, just giving you +1WOs." Lately, the TKing-Punishment has been repermitted, but I myself rarely see it used. With the Penitus Oculatus about, Imperials have been given stricter punishments like demotions, and on some cases, exile.
"EoT's leader, Dathuran, is unexperienced." This is a strict opinion. If you ask me, I think its a load of BS. War clans is all Dathuran has ever done on ROBLOX, and I think he highly qualifies. Any Imperial would agree, just how any Thalmor would say Poisoncrow makes a great leader.
"EoT and Dathuran have copied AD many times in the past." >Poison steals Augustan legit.
"EoT's bases have known to be unfair, StarBreaker is by far the most unfair/unbalanced. Even Imperials/Blades agree it is." There's no such thing as a perfect base, unless it is a baseplate with two spawns and is just a KO-Match. AD's forts are no more fair than EoT's.
"EoT tries to make AD look bad, but in reality we are just strict and disciplined, something EoT lacks." EoT has never tried to make AD look bad. I've been with them for nearly a year, and we keep to ourselves. EoT is very well disciplined, but some of the officers we have do not try hard enough.
"EoT relies heavily on numbers to succeed in anything." Being that Poisoncrow refuses to raid us, he has already showed that this statement is false. According to Dathuran, "I can guarentee there is more skill on EoT's behalf! Just look at the swordfighters we have! Not to mention undiscovered potential through our wide ranks!"
"EoT does not show any skill, Ronan is one of the few people that presents a challenge. All Blades cannot fight." The Blades are the most experienced warriors we have. Poisoncrow believes that because he can get an alt into EoT and then surprise attack a blade is beating one.
"EoT does not use tactics, hence why they only succeed with numbers." While we used to not use many tactics, EoT is now building a new academy that will involve formations and strategies for raiding.
"EoT does not stick to the genre, they raided and allied futuristic, modern, or medieveal groups. Mediveal is ok but I do not entirely like it, however futuristic groups is just ignorant to this genre." Poisoncrow probably states this because his Thalmor can't crush futuristic clans like EoT can. We prefer to stick with sword-based clans, and still can prove victorious.
"EoT trainings are nothing, they bore me to death." They bore almost anyone to death. EoT is forming a new training system to implement beneficial sessions to ensure improvement.
"Dathuran does not go into games. Hes online enough, he plays like 6 hours a day." The purpose of officers is for them to train imperials, so that the leader can work on internal problems, like corruption in the HR system, etc. Dathuran is very busy, and doesn't have time to be online 24/7.
"I hate Dathuran because he forces his other members to lead. Dathuran commands a few people in EoT who commands the rest of EoT." As I just said, it is the officers' job to train, so that the leader can handle other issues. If Poisoncrow tried this out, he could probably fix a lot of flaws that AD has.
"I hate EoT because they act like the ROBLOX Great War never happened, mainly because they acknowledge they lost it by far." Poisoncrow forgets that AUTOWINS DO NOT COUNT, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU EXPLOIT. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now onto Dathuran. The Imperial Emperor of Tamriel. According to Dathuran, he doesn't mind AD, but Poison is the real issue.
"All they do is flame-- and sometimes it's not even appropriate flame." Asking anyone in EoT, probably a bunch in AD, can agree. This is what Poison does best.
"I'm sick of him saying 'EoT only cares for numbers', if this was true I wouldn't work my --- off to fix it!" This is commonly Poison's most used excuse, and its invalid.
"He goes around calling Thalmor supremacists, when his group is more flawed than you think. But at least I can recognize the Empire's flaws." If Poisoncrow focused on his internal issues, AD could improve. EoT is constantly resolving problems.
"I decided to attended a training at their fort; and all poison did was criticize us and yell at us-- I even won a tournament against three of his other soldiers there using classic!" >using classic
"They are probably skilled in other areas, but they always critique and blast our combat, when I can guarentee there is more skill on EoT's behalf! Just look at the swordfighters we have! Not to mention undiscovered potential through our wide ranks!" Considering Poison only cares about combat...
"It's not AD, it's the leadership-- not just poison, but his high ranks. (His old high ranks as well) It's our leadership as well. (Our officers)" YES, YES, YES.
"I used to like poison as well until he decided to show that flaming and personal attacks were 'ok'." Poison can't prove to EoT that AD is better, so he flames the Emperor instead. Some very immature remarks are his little contests where they all guess Dathuran's weight. Since Poison has too many issues to resolve, he doesn't try and just takes the lazy way out.
"I'm not saying I've never flamed before, but I can promise you, I've never deliberately started ANYTHING unprovoked to do so." This is honestly true. Dathuran doesn't flame anyone unless it is a rebuttle, and 90% he is flamed by Poison.
"In short, he needs to stop worrying about our flaws, and leave that to us to figure out." Poisoncrow focuses too much on EoT than his own group. It's sad that he can say Dathuran is a bad leader, yet Dathuran actually works with his group. -------------------------------------------------------------
Overall, this is what I have uncovered, in summary, for you tl;dr people.
Poisoncrow is obsessed with EoT; He flames us, uses alts to surprise attack us and then claim that was skill on his part, and tries his hardest to be the biggest jerk he can while still claiming superiority. Dathuran ignores Poison, works on his own clan, and does his best to resolve any issues we have.
Feel free to judge whomever you choose. Who's the REAL leader here? |
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MegaE800
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| 19 May 2013 01:16 PM |
| Very well said, this is pretty much the summary of it all. Easiest way to go about is to ignore AD, don't feed the trolls. ^_^ |
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| 19 May 2013 01:24 PM |
bump.
all of it is actually true. #PrepareTheADRageSpam |
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| 19 May 2013 01:29 PM |
| TES is full of stupid drama. |
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yurim6
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| 19 May 2013 01:36 PM |
| Read ALL the AD Rage Spams! |
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| 19 May 2013 01:37 PM |
| Biased thread, nothing but Justin flaming AD. Nothing unexpected though from Justin, he stalks me 24.7. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:39 PM |
| Yeah poison, He stalks you, while you stalk Maroon 24/7? |
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| 19 May 2013 01:41 PM |
Not true, Maroon is mad at me because when I shutdown AD she wanted to keep a alt in it, of course after I refused any alts or anybody in AD, shortly after I found out she was going to give it to EoT.
Basicly Maroon raged at me with a couple PM's and such, stole AD Alts from me, and left as a follower of mine. I send her friend requests because I know she hates it, just a little revegene for attempting to steal my group. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:42 PM |
Poison she doesn't want to Rejoin AD, She doesn't want to run your group for you. Stop stalking her, it's pathetic. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:44 PM |
| I didn't even message you, ew. |
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BossLaw
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| 19 May 2013 01:45 PM |
| Pssh, Maroon leading? Thats funny. The only thing she lead in AD was her "small patrols" of three and four people while me and Luip got like 15 people at a patrol or training. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:45 PM |
| You send me friend requests 6 times a day. If it doesn't stop I'm going to email ROBLOX, and report you for stalking. I don't want to join your pathetic group, lol. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:46 PM |
| poison just get out, you could be the pet idiot of a dead brain cell. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:46 PM |
Keep lying about raids wins.
LOL. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:48 PM |
| This is why I love our genre. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:50 PM |
yeah it's amazing. all the flames. all the insults. #itcouldseriouslygetimproved. |
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seanr568
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| 19 May 2013 01:51 PM |
| The problem is not AD, it's Poisoncrow. I like most of the AD members, but Poison I can not stand, which I think is the case for most people. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:52 PM |
| Maroon, go hide behind your 1990 PC while eating McDonalds as you do, its the only thing your good at besides spamming me with rage PM's and taunts. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:52 PM |
And the only thing Poison is good at is flame! That's why he doesn't run his group. It was Maroon's job. |
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| 19 May 2013 01:53 PM |
Poison her PMs are set to friends only. Meaning SHE CAN NOT PM YOU. |
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seanr568
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| 19 May 2013 01:54 PM |
| Man, I love it when we prove Poisons flames wrong and he still trys to battle it c: |
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