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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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18 May 2013 07:03 AM
C&G can make a clan strong, or dead.
C&G opinion is like an addiction. At 1st it's good, then you can't live without it.

Not sure if this is 100% accurate, but,

Did anyone notice that clans that are dependent on C&G for fund, members, and what-not usually fail and begin to be passed around. Their traits are usually a basic infrastructure, sometimes stable leader, although only for a short time. These are mostly VIP clans too, that have broken their VIP status and now have a leader from C&G.
Examples:
RS
IF
LS
HAU


Some clans are dependent on C&G opinion, although not completely dependent on it, if C&G doesn't approve, it starts to go down. It usually shows traits of a strong infrastructure but as said before, dependent on C&G opinion. These clans usaully decay over time.

Examples:
RAT
FEAR
UCR
NFC
RAT

-Think about it, these are all C&Ger clans.


While clans that don't care what C&G thinks usually have a high activity rate, a stable leader, and decently thought out infrastructure. Although it MAY be corrupt, it is still stable.

Examples:
USSF
USM
USA



Although these might not be totally accurate, this is what I have from my overall observation.
I did not mean any offense. Just trying to prove a point.
I didn't add some clans because honestly I ddin't know where to put them. (WIJ, TRA etc.)
But you have to admit, even though you probably don't like those clans like USSF, you have to admit to their activity.
Skill-wise is a different animal altogether.
You can defend your clan if you wish. I won't fight back.
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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18 May 2013 07:10 AM
wrote RAT twice
srry
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EnchantedDice is not online. EnchantedDice
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18 May 2013 07:11 AM
Bump

This be a true story
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Nickloginov is not online. Nickloginov
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18 May 2013 07:12 AM
I like this theory.
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MegaE800 is not online. MegaE800
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18 May 2013 07:12 AM
tl;dr

but i guess it was nicely written

mkk
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OwneD1991 is not online. OwneD1991
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18 May 2013 07:13 AM
can't tell if its a good thing or a bad thing SC isnt on there
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hammer124 is not online. hammer124
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18 May 2013 07:13 AM
Where does JC fit into this? We do not care what C&G thinks but then many judge us as "unstable".

-Ham
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uncoverloser is not online. uncoverloser
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18 May 2013 07:13 AM
You finally realised... we've been talking this since... HAU I think.








~ "Bless the mind too small for doubt." ~
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Daniel3613 is not online. Daniel3613
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18 May 2013 07:14 AM
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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18 May 2013 07:14 AM
I purposely didn't put some clans in because some were inbetween.

@Owen, you have to admit that SC thrives on C&G's approval. Although not alot, I think.
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TntBoy2001 is not online. TntBoy2001
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18 May 2013 07:15 AM
igo proved a point
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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18 May 2013 07:17 AM
I just wanted to toss another idea of clan leading to the mix. Instead of the normal.
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MegaE800 is not online. MegaE800
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18 May 2013 07:17 AM
arg
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shadowlite56 is not online. shadowlite56
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18 May 2013 07:19 AM
i like this
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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18 May 2013 07:22 AM
bump
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ShadowSTR is not online. ShadowSTR
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18 May 2013 07:26 AM
Support
And hi igoinng
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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19 May 2013 07:58 AM
bump
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Archteryx is not online. Archteryx
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19 May 2013 07:59 AM
@igoing

JC in the last list?
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spot is not online. spot
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19 May 2013 08:01 AM
"Did anyone notice that clans that are dependent on C&G for fund, members, and what-not usually fail and begin to be passed around. "

Kinda like when I say that every clan that is relatively small and has C&G'ers in it fail. I don't agree with what you say with being "C&G opinion dependent" though..
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Yannickman6 is not online. Yannickman6
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19 May 2013 08:01 AM
Okay.

VAC LVL 5/TPA COM/Blackwatch* Operator YM6
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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19 May 2013 08:06 AM
@Arch

Is JC doing, 'well' right now?

@Spot

Clans thrive on C&G but also fail because of it. That's what I'm saying. C&G's opinion can change in a blink of an eye.
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Archteryx is not online. Archteryx
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19 May 2013 08:07 AM
@igoing

No, the SHOULD be on the third list.
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bidoof77 is not online. bidoof77
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19 May 2013 08:11 AM
yuhateHAU
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Lissitski is not online. Lissitski
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19 May 2013 08:11 AM
C&G is like the media or the news...they are a powerful force.

Sometimes it is ok to know C&G's opinion over certain things, but one must learn to ignore certain opinions for their clan to strive. Normally it is best to listen to the intellectuals and those who aren't a bunch of sarcastic trolls.

When I was in RSF, having been the only RSF C&Ger, I would normally act as the "voice of the people" of both C&G and RSF during meetings. I would report to my fellow Hrs and to Fruitbox the status of our public reputation as well as news amongst other clans and how the public would react to our decisions.

I believe this kept RSF rather stable at the time. Every clan should have at least one "spokesperson" or "representative" on the forum, in order to give a "public viewpoint" during meetings.


In the case of say, UAF, it was actually very dominant at one point, being talked about a lot on the forum, not only because of Benblue9, but because of all the UAF who forumed.

Even so, a lot of UAF's decisions haven't really been influenced by C&G that much. We are still standing.

And once our new base is released, hopefully, we shall rise again.

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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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19 May 2013 08:12 AM
While clans that don't care what C&G thinks usually have a high activity rate, a stable leader, and decently thought out infrastructure. Although it MAY be corrupt, it is still stable.


>high activity rate

JC is dying.

>Stable leader

ya

>decently thought out infrastructure

eh, I guess

>corrupt

ya

So I guess it could

But it would be also on a different list.
Because it thrives on C&G, but has the traits of a 3rd lister.
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