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tjlnintendo is not online. tjlnintendo
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03 May 2013 08:04 PM
@frozen
read the first page.....U will see reese there
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tjlnintendo is not online. tjlnintendo
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03 May 2013 08:05 PM
and Ur prof is pathetic....repley back when U can actually give prof
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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03 May 2013 08:07 PM
And like I said,
They rarely don't post on threads they care about,
And when they do it's just "I like this idea" and nothing else.

When they actually critisise a thread like reese did just then,
That's a guaranteed no-no.

If you want evidence, the only thing I can tell you is trust me.
Three years of S&I, I know how the devs work.
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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03 May 2013 08:12 PM
And you want proof?

Okay,
YOU give proof that I am WRONG.
We'll try that wheel.

Oh, that and the hundreds of other rant threads I am not searching for.

Besides, if you think that proof is the matter of everything, let me tell you this:
Prove we exist.
Prove that the people around me aren't robots.
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sonic45777788 is not online. sonic45777788
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03 May 2013 08:12 PM
If ROBLOX was a real country,it would be communist.
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NewChoosen1 is not online. NewChoosen1
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03 May 2013 08:12 PM
@Frozen You idiot.. The only reason why you're on there side is because you know that you have life time TBC. So listen to this you thick skull = If I were to made 5 famous places, and my BC runs out, I can only have one active places. And robloxians wont be able to play there favorite games anymore. To reactivate them I got to keep buying BC. Well listen, what would happen if for some reason, you got banned forever with that life time TBC of yours, would you quit? Or would you run Roblox admins 200$+ more dollars?
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gamehero is not online. gamehero
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03 May 2013 08:12 PM
That's not good enough proof that they won't take any of our ideas into account. If our reasons are good enough, they will listen, if not, they won't.. Oh well.. Time will tell, they could already be thinking of a solution that none of us thought of.


By the way, here's proof they do more than just listening to feedback. I got PMed by one of the admins early in the year after posting a big list of problems with Studio 2013 on someone's topic:

"I just wanted to say thank you for your awesome detailed list of feedback on Studio 2013. I run the Studio team here and your ability to clearly state what bothers you is incredibly useful. I'm going to try to get a lot of these fixed in the next few days. Thanks again, and I may contact you if I have any questions!"


He didn't lie, they got fixed.
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sonic45777788 is not online. sonic45777788
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03 May 2013 08:12 PM
and telamon would be the tyrannous loathesome dictator.
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NewChoosen1 is not online. NewChoosen1
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03 May 2013 08:13 PM
Sorry I ment @Gster
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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03 May 2013 08:20 PM
Well, it seems my cravings for fire have paid off.



"@Frozen You idiot.. The only reason why you're on there side is because you know that you have life time TBC. So listen to this you thick skull = If I were to made 5 famous places, and my BC runs out, I can only have one active places. And robloxians wont be able to play there favorite games anymore. To reactivate them I got to keep buying BC. Well listen, what would happen if for some reason, you got banned forever with that life time TBC of yours, would you quit? Or would you run Roblox admins 200$+ more dollars?"
1) BC montly, not lifetime TBC. That is one massive mistake seeing it quite clearly says BCer on my avatar.
2) Rotate your places. You get more money that way even if you were a BCer. Besides, if you were famous you would just brush off of the requests.
3) It's a smart buisness tactic from a buisness viewpoint. It's because NBCers as a whole are really... shall I say spoilt for a lack of a way to be politically correct that these arguments happen.
4) If I was banned forever, personally I'd make a new account. But that is not annogulous to being restricted such as place slot reduction; banning forever is a denial effect. Two very different things.

And gamehero:

Both A:
We don't know that that PM existed except you.
And B:
...Can I check something first?
I'll get back to this point as soon as I've done that. 'Kay?









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Re: Bring back multiple NBC places
Posted: 05-03-2013 06:12 PM



That's not good enough proof that they won't take any of our ideas into account. If our reasons are good enough, they will listen, if not, they won't.. Oh well.. Time will tell, they could already be thinking of a solution that none of us thought of.


By the way, here's proof they do more than just listening to feedback. I got PMed by one of the admins early in the year after posting a big list of problems with Studio 2013 on someone's topic:

"I just wanted to say thank you for your awesome detailed list of feedback on Studio 2013. I run the Studio team here and your ability to clearly state what bothers you is incredibly useful. I'm going to try to get a lot of these fixed in the next few days. Thanks again, and I may contact you if I have any questions!"


He didn't lie, they got fixed.

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Jtmt88 is not online. Jtmt88
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03 May 2013 08:21 PM
""Irrelevant."
If you would actually quote my ENITRE points and read my entire points before making a comment, you'd have realised the relevance.
I was lying there. No, I don't have a dog made out of marshmallows or whatever it was.

"Spin and manipulate what?"
Your minds.

"nope dot avi"
http://blog.roblox.com/2009/09/listen-to-the-man-with-the-dynamite/
Yes.avi.
Oh, and read it carefully.

"But they did pay for the benefits of Builders Club..."
"3. Ex-BC Members are and should be treated the same as free-playing non-BC users."
From the blog post above.

Good luck!
Didn't need it.
But thanks anyway.

"Yes, but it's inefficient."
So you'd rather rant in futility?

"Sure, alts can hold places, but they might not be useful to the user anyway."
So you'd rather rant in futility?

"You joined later than I did."
On this account, yes.
November the ninth, 2008 is my complete join date. The account's johnces (bad name, I know) if you really want to validate that for some reason.
And either way, I've got far, FAR more experience than you on S&I, I know far, FAR more about roblox than you. Age doesn't matter, only competance.

"You only think I and other ranters cannot succeed because of your closed-mindedness."
Partially, maybe.
But in a majority, I've been on S&I all of this account, and I have never seen a single rant post actually work. In 3.5 years as frozengaia, I have seen no rant work, including my own.

"You do realize that you can actually go on strike in servers with moderators?"
You do realize all they'll do is just leave the place, consider you dissidants, then shrug you off?

"So according to that argument you too are an imbecile."
Well, I definitely can't say I wasn't an imbicile.
Let's just say I've seen the error of my ways.

"No, I said you started off with a place. Irrelevant."
You got something, then you lost it.
¬_¬
Please tell me I don't have to spell everything out.

This will fall.
This will not work."

I can sum up my argument with this 2007 blog post:
http://blog.roblox.com/2007/06/user-marketplace-capture-the-flag-and-heat-seeking-rockets/

It explains everything. That is, look at the "New Builder's Club Members" section.
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Jtmt88 is not online. Jtmt88
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03 May 2013 08:28 PM
Let's look at the results of this:

Majority:
BloxAdventure, joined by sonic45777788, NewChoosen1, tjlnintendo, drago62935, Jtmt88, quaker45, ShooterDude54, WII3579, et al.

Concurrence:
gamehero

Dissent:
frozengaia
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tjlnintendo is not online. tjlnintendo
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03 May 2013 08:33 PM
@frozen
Dude just shut it! Whatever roblox does is up to them! You don't know if they might undo this update or not. stop thinking that U know everything...u don't. Only time will tell and all the rest of us can do is HOPE so we don't need people like you just trying to make people lose there hope.....but what would I expect from a guy who is irrelevant like u...hehe.... and let me guess ur going to to say that "I know more then u" or " I do know what roblox think" but to me...you just all talk...but no action or proof
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sonic45777788 is not online. sonic45777788
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03 May 2013 08:40 PM
I have officially quit because of these updates,I may come online,but very rarely,I wont be playing games. Besides I have better games to play:MINECR@FT
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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03 May 2013 08:41 PM
Kay, back. Thanks for your patience if you were patient, which you probably weren't.

Well, I don't see me directly saying that they don't listen...
Well, I definitely implied it in my autocracy point...

Okay, here's a clarifier. I apologize for not being as clear as I should be, so I will make my point blatantly obvious in this post.
Ignore all "they don't care" points I have made up until now:

They don't listen to RANTS. They listen to well-figured and well-meaning points, something that a rant is the exact opposite of.
Here's my proof for that:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=69832618


And by don't listen they mean don't take into account. They may say "Okay, thanks for the feed back" but it's really just so you know they actually read it and tossed it aside. (Proof: Search up any long-paged rant ever.)

After all, if you went into a place full of bullies and they insulted you every time you went in there, would you go there again?
That's what happened to the devs during 2011, here in S&I. When BC-only games came out. It was so much of a rant that they stopped caring...
Until 2013, I should have said that and apologies, when chiefjustus made that sticky. Personally, I think it won't last. But that's off of the record.
The fact that they have come back however, has not changed the following observations I have seen:

1) If roblox's staff critisises an idea opposed to seconding it, it's never going to be made.
2) If roblox's staff seconds an idea, it changes it from never to marginally.
3) Roblox's staff, although varied on the individual, posts more on posts that aren't going to be made than posts that are.
4) If roblox's staff guarantees a post, then it's going to be made in either a very long time
4) Want proof for all of this? That'd require multiple examples, none of which I can remember the name of, so just take my word for it. It's not proveable but true, just like many things in the world. (Ie: We exist, we aren't robots, etc.)
If you REALLY want proof, then I might try.
I might. Probably not, the search bar is just... eck.

And, for anyone going to use the new NBC bodies to counter me, that had in roblox's eyes a good point to actually do it; they promised it. This doesn't.

There, that cleans that up.
There we go.
How late of a post will this be?
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sonic45777788 is not online. sonic45777788
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03 May 2013 08:43 PM
Games without tyrannical slimy scumbags that are the administrators
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Jtmt88 is not online. Jtmt88
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03 May 2013 08:45 PM
"Kay, back. Thanks for your patience if you were patient, which you probably weren't.

Well, I don't see me directly saying that they don't listen...
Well, I definitely implied it in my autocracy point...

Okay, here's a clarifier. I apologize for not being as clear as I should be, so I will make my point blatantly obvious in this post.
Ignore all "they don't care" points I have made up until now:

They don't listen to RANTS. They listen to well-figured and well-meaning points, something that a rant is the exact opposite of.
Here's my proof for that:
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=69832618


And by don't listen they mean don't take into account. They may say "Okay, thanks for the feed back" but it's really just so you know they actually read it and tossed it aside. (Proof: Search up any long-paged rant ever.)

After all, if you went into a place full of bullies and they insulted you every time you went in there, would you go there again?
That's what happened to the devs during 2011, here in S&I. When BC-only games came out. It was so much of a rant that they stopped caring...
Until 2013, I should have said that and apologies, when chiefjustus made that sticky. Personally, I think it won't last. But that's off of the record.
The fact that they have come back however, has not changed the following observations I have seen:

1) If roblox's staff critisises an idea opposed to seconding it, it's never going to be made.
2) If roblox's staff seconds an idea, it changes it from never to marginally.
3) Roblox's staff, although varied on the individual, posts more on posts that aren't going to be made than posts that are.
4) If roblox's staff guarantees a post, then it's going to be made in either a very long time
4) Want proof for all of this? That'd require multiple examples, none of which I can remember the name of, so just take my word for it. It's not proveable but true, just like many things in the world. (Ie: We exist, we aren't robots, etc.)
If you REALLY want proof, then I might try.
I might. Probably not, the search bar is just... eck.

And, for anyone going to use the new NBC bodies to counter me, that had in roblox's eyes a good point to actually do it; they promised it. This doesn't.

There, that cleans that up.
There we go.
How late of a post will this be?"

Too late.

Nobody cares.
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sonic45777788 is not online. sonic45777788
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03 May 2013 08:46 PM
All the admin care about these days is cold hard cash.
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tjlnintendo is not online. tjlnintendo
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03 May 2013 08:48 PM
Last time I am going to say it...ONLY TIME will tell. We will just HOPE Roblox will help us and undo this...maybe... I have faith in roblox........I'll end my comments here.

~Don't lose hope...always believe and don't let anyone make U feel down....this is what I learned fomr this
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Jtmt88 is not online. Jtmt88
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03 May 2013 08:54 PM
tjlnintendo:

Did you miss this post by reesemcblox on page 5?

"Well this got a lot more replies than I expected. We are reading your comments. Thanks for your feedback!"
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frozengaia is not online. frozengaia
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03 May 2013 08:55 PM
Not that late, then.
Good, how nice of you to be so considerate.
Well, kinda.

Anyway:

http://blog.roblox.com/2009/09/listen-to-the-man-with-the-dynamite/
2009 is more recent than 2007.
So that blog post is irrelivant.

And I love being the odd one out.
:D Hmm, these guys really can't resist bait. I'll jot that down.

Anyway, nintendo:
@frozen
"Dude just shut it! Whatever roblox does is up to them!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
THE IRONY! THE IRONY! ENCORE! ENCORE!
You're the one saying what roblox can and can't do.
Or, "hoping" on its points.
Well, not really a time for my meme, but it'd do.

"You don't know if they might undo this update or not."
I can use my experience to make a very accurate assumption.
They haven't done so before given the parameters this one has, so why should they now?
"stop thinking that U know everything...u don't."
Have I said that?
No, I haven't.
Sure, I give an arrogant vibe, but providing I can admit I'm incorrect and am right to a good extent, does it matter?

"the rest of us can do is HOPE so we don't need people like you just trying to make people lose there hope..."
Hope?
Is hope a 13 long thread no different from its progenitors? Is that what you call hope?
Hope implies a plea, or a doubt.
A better term would be confidence.
Besides, I've seen it all before. Same arguments, same counters.

"but what would I expect from a guy who is irrelevant like u...hehe...."
Have I insulted you once?
No?
I expect the same kind of respect back then.
Or, do you actually want to turn this from an argument into a flame wall?

"and let me guess ur going to to say that "I know more then u" or " I do know what roblox think" but to me...you just all talk...but no action or proof"
Okay then.
Where's YOUR proof?
You seem to critisise my lack when you supply none for your own point... what is your point anyway?
Oh, right. You never had one. All you've done is downed me without raising yourself.

As soon as you can find direct proof that this will be done, then I will happily accept. But I don't see one given the tons of evidence aginst.
Not everything can be proven, but some things are true anyway.
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Jtmt88 is not online. Jtmt88
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03 May 2013 09:04 PM
"Not that late, then."
Nope, too late.

"2009 is more recent than 2007.
So that blog post is irrelivant."

Nope. We ex-BC members have always dictated that ex-BC members will keep their place slots. The 2007 blog post reinforces and reaffirms our belief.

"And I love being the odd one out."
GOOD.

"HAHAHAHAHAHAAH
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL"

Are you a six-year-old? No.

"As soon as you can find direct proof that this will be done, then I will happily accept. But I don't see one given the tons of evidence aginst.
Not everything can be proven, but some things are true anyway."

Oh yeah?
Listen to the forum moderator with the ogre teeth.
Reese.
"Well this got a lot more replies than I expected. We are reading your comments. Thanks for your feedback!"
That hints at us that we will get the slots back, it just takes time...
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woof111 is not online. woof111
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03 May 2013 09:09 PM
I AM AGAINST THIS! PINEWOOD BUILDERS IS GOING TO END BECAUSE OF THIS HUGE MISTAKE THE ADMINS ARE MAKING! LET THEM HAVE THE BENEFITS!
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inspector123 is online. inspector123
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03 May 2013 09:09 PM
I now kindly ask you this,why is roblox updating updates robloxians don't want?
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GronorTheElf is not online. GronorTheElf
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03 May 2013 09:12 PM
I concur. I spent $10 on BC just for the extra places. I had no intentions of keeping BC, because I do not wish to continue to pay for it since all I needed BUILDERS club for was to BUILD! I have 5 or so places uploaded to my profile right now, and many more in progress saved to file on my computer. This update is incredibly stupid, and should it happen, will probably make me ragequit from ROBLOX. For a building game, they sure do manage to cheat people who actually wish to build out of their money. There's already too many OBC people who don't do a THING with building, they just want the extra money.
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