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Re: Why is there so much hate for communism?

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StormRecon is not online. StormRecon
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12 Apr 2013 10:53 PM
(I'm not communist)

Just because of the Cold War, USA and Canada have gone all out anti-communist. What is so bad about communism that can scare the living crap out of world leaders? I don't see much wrong with communism, other than (usually) strict military rule and a cult around the leader.
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starpilot12 is not online. starpilot12
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12 Apr 2013 10:53 PM
You haven't seen much "Behind the scenes" have you?
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elite6247 is not online. elite6247
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12 Apr 2013 10:54 PM
"What is so bad about it"

Oh sure if you cut out the fact that thousands die then sure its a great thing.

Not.
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MrSicknasty is not online. MrSicknasty
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12 Apr 2013 10:54 PM
nation socialism
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Tenal is not online. Tenal
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12 Apr 2013 10:54 PM
copypasta from someone else;

The basic idea of Communism is great, I've always liked it. The ideas of Marx were great, which is why some countries decided to take that course. Unfortunately, it looks good on paper, terrible in action.

What countries like Russia and China hoped communism would look like:
-A poor construction worker.
-A rich CEO who inherited his business from family.

Add communism:

-A poor construction worker.
-A poor CEO who inherited his unsuccessful and government-run business from his family.


You see, the Communists would hope that the construction worker would become middle class and the rich CEO would fall down to become middle class as well. It was not the case.

In Russia for example (First real communist state), the government forced factories to produce faster to reel out more goods, thinking it would boost the economy. Instead, the factories were so afraid of these deadlines that they made the goods of horrible quality. Collective farms? Farmers won't give in to that, and they're not as productive as they seem. 10 farmers running their own farms is more productive than 10 farmers running one big farm, its been proven.

Also, with communism usually comes a Totalitarian state. No privacy, the government could do whatever they want to you, no Democracy, etc. This is the main reason why people hate Communism. They often associate Communism with Totalitarianism. Communism isn't nearly as bad as Totalitarianism, its objective is actually very good (Money towards the people who most deserve it!)

No rights, no economic freedom, no political freedom, and the government chooses your life for you.

People don't like that, so people hate it. They hate..."Communism," or in my eyes, "Communists that became Totalitarian."
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StormRecon is not online. StormRecon
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12 Apr 2013 10:54 PM
Silly Americans. You have been brainwashed into think communism is bad. Can you look at the successes of communism please?
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heypeople2011 is not online. heypeople2011
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12 Apr 2013 10:55 PM
and obviously, democracy must be utterly worthless because of the roman republic.

like seriously, if just one example tells us it's bad, IT'S ALL BAD!
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elite6247 is not online. elite6247
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12 Apr 2013 10:56 PM
AHA

There is no success in it.
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Lefty13 is not online. Lefty13
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12 Apr 2013 10:56 PM
If used correctly, it could work well, so I partially support communism.
It's never been used correctly.
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StormRecon is not online. StormRecon
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12 Apr 2013 10:56 PM
Democracy isn't exactly good either.
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starpilot12 is not online. starpilot12
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12 Apr 2013 10:57 PM
Roman empire lasted at it's peak for like 20-30 years.


Then the Persians and the Barbaric Hordes took over the land.


Also, Romans gave us the idea of Democracy.


Ever heard of something called the Roman Senate?

Roman Republic?

ect.
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MrSicknasty is not online. MrSicknasty
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12 Apr 2013 10:57 PM
socialism is where its at.

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Tenal is not online. Tenal
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12 Apr 2013 10:57 PM
@storm
get off your xbox.
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specialop987 is not online. specialop987
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12 Apr 2013 10:58 PM
Communism/Socialism is working in Australia, our socialist party called Labor Party. You don't even have to go to work to live in a house but you would not have electricity and we have excellent welfare services.
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dudeshark is not online. dudeshark
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12 Apr 2013 10:58 PM
It is good, there just isn't a good leader to actually make it work. Also, I don't like the idea that someone could go slack off and not do their job but I could go work 24 hours a day 5 days a week and still make the same amount of money as him. See what I'm saying?
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StormRecon is not online. StormRecon
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12 Apr 2013 10:58 PM
@elite


Stalin. Under him, the USSR went from one of the world's most backward states to arguably the most technologically sophisticated.
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MrSicknasty is not online. MrSicknasty
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12 Apr 2013 10:58 PM
yes.

special, a chance to rule the world. hail!
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cakelovespie is not online. cakelovespie
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12 Apr 2013 10:59 PM
I believe that the US thinks that it is evil or something, because it's different from Capitalism.

That is just my opinion.
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specialop987 is not online. specialop987
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12 Apr 2013 10:59 PM
In THEORY you think Australia is capitalism but in REALITY and from realist studies we're already communist and just need to abolish all private property, private companies and label ourselves communist.
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ScarXD is not online. ScarXD
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12 Apr 2013 11:00 PM
"I don't see what's wrong with it." Ahhh just those words.

Guardian Units of Nations,Leader~Scar~
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StormRecon is not online. StormRecon
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12 Apr 2013 11:01 PM
@Tenal

What Xbox? I have a computer and a TV. I don't play consoles.

and also tenal

CONCERNING STALIN!:

Stalin likely saved more people through his industrialization program, meaning prevented more people from dying of easily preventable diseases, malnutrition, etc, by modernization than he killed in all his purges put together.
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12 Apr 2013 11:01 PM
hi
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heypeople2011 is not online. heypeople2011
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12 Apr 2013 11:01 PM
@star

rome, at its peak lasted for a good deal more than 20-30 years

athens is traditionally considered the first democracy

barbarians sacked rome sometime in the 400's AD

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Zealots is not online. Zealots
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12 Apr 2013 11:01 PM
"Roman empire lasted at it's peak for like 20-30 years."

i think you mean 200 years. paxa roma or something like that

~Grand Master (13,510+ posts) "You are no more of a king then the boil on my arse"
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cakelovespie is not online. cakelovespie
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12 Apr 2013 11:01 PM
Scar, there is honestly nothing wrong with Communism.
It's the countries that attempt to use it, then utterly fail with it.
On paper, it looks great, but when put to use, it falls apart.
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