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Xozes is not online. Xozes
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06 Apr 2013 04:08 PM
He has been saying that for the past 3 days, and the IP he has doesn't even have the right city I live in. So he is being stupid.
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zelo81 is not online. zelo81
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06 Apr 2013 04:09 PM
You're cool.

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Josh6906 is not online. Josh6906
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06 Apr 2013 04:10 PM
um okay...
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Youshin is not online. Youshin
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06 Apr 2013 04:10 PM
@zelo, nice sarcasm.

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06 Apr 2013 04:11 PM
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Moderately is not online. Moderately
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06 Apr 2013 04:12 PM
let the sarcasm flow
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Bulq is not online. Bulq
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06 Apr 2013 08:30 PM
>hacking is impossible on roblox
>proof of it?


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cw2326 is not online. cw2326
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06 Apr 2013 08:32 PM
@Bulq Explain that to BWC's ForeverJohn. Practice and his friend were on FJ's account.
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Armanos is not online. Armanos
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06 Apr 2013 08:33 PM
H4K11!
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jamiethedevil is not online. jamiethedevil
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06 Apr 2013 08:34 PM
h4x

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GGGGG14 is not online. GGGGG14
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06 Apr 2013 08:34 PM
hello xozesss
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06 Apr 2013 08:35 PM
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Bulq is not online. Bulq
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06 Apr 2013 08:35 PM

wtf is a hack anyways i hear about it all the time

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pwnedu46 is not online. pwnedu46
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06 Apr 2013 08:42 PM
", and the IP he has doesn't even have the right city"

Your IP is public information, if he thinks he can hack with just that, he doesn't know what he's talking about. The best you could do with that is get a very general approximation of where you live IRL.
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Second, hacking an account is not possible on Roblox. Even if you were able to get the contents from the Roblox server, it would be useless because it is stored as a hashed string (undecryptable with current-gen technology).

The best you could to to "hack" is PG (pg != hacking), and that is just a matter of getting lucky.
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8SunTzu8 is not online. 8SunTzu8
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06 Apr 2013 08:43 PM
Hacking doesn't seem that hard.

*use program to get hashes stored on a site's servers*

*use another program to figure out what string of characters will return the same hash of whoever you're trying to hack*

*log in*

I know how to do the second step... still need to look up how to do the first. It'll be important to understand how people do that if you ever want to really protect yourself.

"Strings of characters for logging in" are actually really safe if you use un-traditional methods. (Putting in random capitalized characters or putting numbers at the end actually make finding your pa ss out no more difficult and easier respectively).

"zigzaghorsehousevehicle" --fake, not mine

It'd take a long, long time to find that with a brute force method. A few changes, some unexplained characters in the middle, and it would take hundreds to trillions of years to figure out.

Your IP doesn't really have anything to do with it, unless the hashes are matched to your IP. (I doubt that, since your IP can change, so that'd be really dumb). Not sure how hashes are stored, but there must be some way the log in system matches it with your account.

I might get banned for posting this... oh well. Whoever it is probably cannot hack you, but don't be naive and think for even half a second that you cannot hack accounts on ROBLOX. The US government cannot protect itself against hackers... no government can really, no corporation, and no individual either. Since those things are true, I am absolutely positive that you can hack ROBLOX.

If he is mentioning IP, then I'd ignore him.

"Consider, friend, as you pass by, as you are now, so once was I. As I am now, you too shall be. Prepare, therefore, to follow me." -Scottish Tombstone Epitaph
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8SunTzu8 is not online. 8SunTzu8
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06 Apr 2013 08:45 PM
@pwn, lol...

lol...

Hashes are barely safe. Even if someone takes the hash of your log in info, and then hashes that 500 times over, adding random characters each time, it's still possible to figure out. It just takes more time, and most people are not as secure as that. It takes a few seconds to match over 5000 p as s es with their hashes.

Although, I'd like to explore how hashing actually works. (I'd rather find a way to reverse the function, even if people believe that to be impossible). :/ If such a way exists and is discovered... releasing it could cause some security issues... just a little.

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pwnedu46 is not online. pwnedu46
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06 Apr 2013 08:53 PM
"*use another program to figure out what string of characters will return the same hash of whoever you're trying to hack*"

It's not that easy.

Search "Cryptographic hash function" on Wikipedia.



An excerpt from a StackOverflow answer:

"The reason they are hard (or impossible in practicality) to reverse is because of how they work internally. Most cryptographic hash functions iterate over the input set many times to produce the output. So if we look at each fixed length chunk of input (which is algorithm dependent), the hash function will call that the current state. It will then iterate over the state and change it to a new one and use that as feedback into itself (MD5 does this 64 times for each 512bit chunk of data). It then somehow combines the resultant states from all these iterations back together to form the resultant hash."
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pwnedu46 is not online. pwnedu46
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06 Apr 2013 08:59 PM
I revoke my previous statement that it is impossible to hack (as nothing is 100% hack-proof), however it is incredibly difficult.
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8SunTzu8 is not online. 8SunTzu8
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06 Apr 2013 09:02 PM
It's easy. You don't reverse it. You guess until you find something that returns the hash you want.

Like I said, you can do 5000 in a matter of seconds, and that's with cheap hardware. (Old dual core processor). With a program that uses as much of your CPU as possible, a quad core processor with a high clock speed, and even a GPU as well, you could match hundreds of thousands, maybe millions, of strings to their resulting hash.

It's fast, easy, and I am sure, with the average age of this site being 12 or something, none of these "strings" would be very complex. I'm sure thousands of them are actually found in these special dictionaries. (You check if it's a common "string" before you apply specific rules that will cover all of the common variations of these common "strings". In the end, you click a start button, and poof, you can now access thousands of accounts with very little effort.

I know how to do this myself. Which is why I know it is easy. With experience, you can get better too. The part I don't know how to do is retrieving the hashes in the first place. (Haven't really tried learning it anyway).

"Consider, friend, as you pass by, as you are now, so once was I. As I am now, you too shall be. Prepare, therefore, to follow me." -Scottish Tombstone Epitaph
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GGGGG14 is not online. GGGGG14
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06 Apr 2013 09:04 PM
suntzu, your knowledge once again leads down a path of innovative fortune c;
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8SunTzu8 is not online. 8SunTzu8
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06 Apr 2013 09:06 PM
I have a lot of interests...

lol

All you must do is "read". That magical thing that seems so very boring to most.

"Consider, friend, as you pass by, as you are now, so once was I. As I am now, you too shall be. Prepare, therefore, to follow me." -Scottish Tombstone Epitaph
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MrBulq is not online. MrBulq
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05 Dec 2013 07:35 AM
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Avastair is not online. Avastair
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05 Dec 2013 07:39 AM
Bump. LEL. What does "bump" mean?

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