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Re: Luck should not be a factor in any Contest.

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nairb is not online. nairb
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05 Apr 2013 03:53 PM
What I mean by the title is, in the near future Contest Places made by the ROBLOX Staff should not factor Luck in getting prizes by the following ways:



RNG Luck: Gambling should not be crammed into children's heads. And some Contests I felt like I was challenging the Random Number Generator to get prizes. The Egg Hunt of 2013 felt a lot like this.



Forced Socialization RNG: If a ROBLOXian says no, you get no chance of winning a prize. The Gift Hunt of 2012 was a blatant example of this. "Hey, want to buy my gear?" "Spammer, go away now."



These two types of RNG should not be in games made by the ROBLOX Staff for either advertisement places (TMNT) or traditional Contest Places (Egg Hunt). It makes more sense in User-made games, but not ROBLOX-made games.



Constructive criticism and suggestions to this idea are welcome. Destructive content is not welcome.
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AertertAlt2 is not online. AertertAlt2
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05 Apr 2013 03:58 PM
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MasterChiefAlpha is not online. MasterChiefAlpha
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05 Apr 2013 04:10 PM
How did the Egg Hunt resemble gambling? A low drop rate for a spawned item is a lot different than having to wage money on something.
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AertertAlt2 is not online. AertertAlt2
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05 Apr 2013 04:12 PM
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nairb is not online. nairb
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05 Apr 2013 04:34 PM
@MasterChiefAlpha

Basically, it went like this.

The game has a chance of drawing more eggs from the server when clearing the zone's worth of eggs. There are two ways of going about and trying to spawn rare eggs.

1. You go and pick up eggs in the zone relevant to the closest spawn of the rare egg. The fabs shared the Waterfall Cave and pre-Unecessary Rare Status Scrambled was either in the city or the Volcano. Farm eggs you don't need, just to get a rare egg to spawn. Feels more like work if anything else.

2. Or you can rig the odds even further with the Cataclysm Egg. This is the method that feels like gambling, you insert some money, in this case waiting for an explosion pulse, and pray that the rare you needed drops, or getting good money in the slots. The egg won the nickname of "The Gambler" because of that.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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05 Apr 2013 04:37 PM
@AertertAlt2

Say Bob wants to get the fabs. He would have to perform the methods I explained to the admin in order to get them in the 2013 Egg Hunt.
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AquaRaider1 is not online. AquaRaider1
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05 Apr 2013 04:42 PM
I agree, prizes should be fun to get. They should still take work to get, but shouldn't take insane amounts of time to respawn. Instead of making eggs take forever to respawn, try making "quests" that must be accomplished after you are already holding the egg. These quests could be long and difficult, making those who do get the egg feel far more accomplished, and keeping them from feeling like they wasted 4 hours of their life waiting.
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rocklee2016 is not online. rocklee2016
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05 Apr 2013 04:53 PM
@MCA,

The volcano egg or whatever spawned once an hour with everyone cramed near the spawning spot.

Egg of growth was the same.

Sorcus/Troll Egg took WAY too long just to have a speed hacker take it.

From what I remember, the 2012 egg hunt was more of a figure-this-out-and-you-win type, not where 2013 was get-lucky-to-outbeat-50-other-robloxians-fighting-over-same thing.

Other egg hunts randomly rained at ALL places, making it easy on all the users as there wasn't 20k people in one place.

Basically, less eggs that are as hard/random to get as the fab.

This is pretty much what this thread suggest.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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05 Apr 2013 05:22 PM
I think I made a suggestion long ago that resembles what AquaRaider1 said. That we should work for prizes.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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05 Apr 2013 05:46 PM
I cross my fingers and I hope not to die.
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chewar123 is not online. chewar123
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05 Apr 2013 05:57 PM
Just make faberges spawn a little easier next year maybe?

I bet 70% of the new kids on ROBLOX don't have a single faberge.

Only those rich teenagers that have alot of money. :I
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Buzzlightyear32123 is not online. Buzzlightyear32123
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05 Apr 2013 06:02 PM
Those Building eggs were really fun this year.

Hopefully they will do it again next year.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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05 Apr 2013 06:13 PM
@chewar123

Or a lot of patience.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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05 Apr 2013 10:07 PM
@Buzzlightyear32123

I agree. I did like the Builderman Egg.
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Zukaro is not online. Zukaro
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05 Apr 2013 10:17 PM
Personally I'd have rathered a more fun egg hunt this year. One where you actually have to do puzzles to get eggs and such rather than wait around for them to spawn.
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Seranok is not online. Seranok
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05 Apr 2013 10:20 PM
The only thing people were gambling with in the egg hunt was time. "If I stay a little longer maybe the scrambled egg will appear..."
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Zukaro is not online. Zukaro
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05 Apr 2013 10:40 PM
"The only thing people were gambling with in the egg hunt was time. "If I stay a little longer maybe the scrambled egg will appear...""

Time is valuable. You've only got so much time on Earth (which is why I can be extremely impatient at times :V). :P
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nairb is not online. nairb
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06 Apr 2013 12:04 AM
@Seranok

That and the Cataclysm egg.
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sassle12 is not online. sassle12
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06 Apr 2013 12:26 AM
Honestly guys I agree with this point 100% but realize this. Roblox is no longer a 12+ site. I started realizing this when these advertisements for teenage mutant ninja turtles. Also the minimum age for Roblox is extremely low when it isn't meant to be.

There are violent games in Roblox among the ones that are not. Games (Roblox staff member) even made a shooting game. *clap clap*. All the updates now only for little boys and girls. All that Roblox makes is for little kids. People want to advertise on Roblox because of its "wide" age span. So this has morphed Roblox way too much.

Actually I think that Roblox should make 2 different sites which you have to be a certain age to go on. Yes younger children will go to the new site but it will be frowned upon by their parents just because of the fact things are a lot more mature for their age.

Some rules will change in the new version of the site, like safe chat will no longer be there (except guests). Guests will still exist but they will have to put in an age still to go on. I can't be bothered to go on with this idea but still, if I can think of this is 10 mins Roblox should be able to in a year.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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06 Apr 2013 12:29 AM
@sassle12

I think people actually have posted ideas for separating 13+ and 12-.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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06 Apr 2013 12:53 AM
The hunt is over. But this is still an issue.
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1204 is not online. 1204
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06 Apr 2013 01:08 AM
Doesn't every contest you ever do have a smidgeon of luck?

When you buy a lottery ticket, you are trying to have luck on your side to win.

When you are in a contest, it is lucky whether or not the judges liked your presentation.

Although I must agree, the egg hunt was done poorly this year. Less puzzles and chaos, more, "Walk 5 Minutes across the map to have a chance at getting a rare egg."

~I am not a Mythbuster. I am a LogicBuster.~
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nairb is not online. nairb
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06 Apr 2013 01:22 AM
@1204

Some contests have luck determined by the wiring of another person's mind. Like the Gift Hunt of 2012. Too much of that particular type of luck ruined that Hunt for me.
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nairb is not online. nairb
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06 Apr 2013 12:14 PM
I wake up, and I wanna see what S&I thinks.
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StelthBloxxer is not online. StelthBloxxer
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06 Apr 2013 12:37 PM
Support. Many of the eggs in this years egg hunt was based on luck and gambling. For instance, the Cataclysmic Egg and the Scrambly Egg were all based on luck, time, and patience, just like what Seranok said.

Thank god I didn't waste my time waiting for the Scrambly Egg to re-spawn, instead, I just found it and picked it up.XD

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