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Bobby123179 is not online. Bobby123179
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02 Apr 2013 09:41 AM
We must all confront an issue to save LMaD. Bias. Bias is ruining LMaD more and more every day. We need to have SET prices for limiteds based on their sales, trades, and looks. Because the prices that LMaD sets for some items don't make any sense. And I believe it's just bias. For example, take these 3 hats:

http://www.roblox.com/Red-Crown-of-Ozymandias-item?id=9465511
http://www.roblox.com/Purple-Sparkletime-Fedora-item?id=63043890
http://www.roblox.com/Gold-Ollie-item?id=22546563

The Rozy, the PSTF, and the Ollie. The prices that people claim that these hats are worth just don't make any sense to me. Hopefully, you'll all agree, or at the very least, shed some light on the situation.

Here's my argument:

People claim that these items are worth this much:

Rozy= 120K max
PSTF= 330K+
Ollie= 200K+

Now, what's wrong with this picture?

According to the charts of the hats above, the average of sales in the last 90 days (that's the last relevant 3 months. I'm not taking prices from 6 months ago. Prices were all different back then). So, the average of sales for these limiteds were (Not counting LPP's):

Rozy: 95K-ish
PSTF: 216K-ish
Ollie: 112K-ish

So, you wanna tell me what's wrong with this picture?

Rozy is apparently worth 25K more than it's average selling value. That's about a 21% increase.
PSTF is apparently worth 114K+ more than it's average selling value. That's about a 35% increase.
Ollie is apparently worth 88K+ more than it's average selling value. That's about a 44% increase.

What's the problem with this? The Rozy sells for just as much as the Ollie, yet for some reason the Ollie increases it's value by over DOUBLE of what the Rozy does? I agree that the Ollie should be slightly more than the ozy. The ollie's average sales are (after all) 17K higher. But why does that mean that the Ollie's value is 80K higher than the Rozy's?

If anything, the Rozy should either be 115K and Ollie should be 135K, or Rozy should be about 140K and Ollie should be about 165K. You cant have it just one way for one item, and then another way for another.

Now, if that's not enough evidence that many higher limited item prices are very bias and incorrect, look at the PSTF! So let's just say that the Rozy IS in fact 120K. And the PSTF is actually 330K. Okay? Following me so far? Now, why is that? Let's say that it were fair and that prices were decided equally based on selling and trading value, okay? That would make Ozy worth (again) 115K, but that would also make PSTF about 260K. Not 330K. Again, if the Ozy is NOT worth at the very least 140K, then based on fact and logic, the PSTF shouldn't be anywhere close to above 300K. But again, the biggest example was Ollie VS Ozy. They sell for around the same, but for some reason, the Ollie is 80K higher? One word. Bias.

In conclusion, LMaD, we need to stop being biased. We need to pick some prices that we can all agree on, and move on. Because I'm sick of getting stuck with items that I think are good based on fact, logic, and mathematics. But according to LMaD, they're worthless. You all need to go back to school and learn simple algebra. That's my two cents on this.

If you're "TL;DR"'ing right now, here's the summary:

LMaD is extremely biased. I can back up my item's values with proof. 95% of LMaD backs up their biased prices with nonsense reasons that don't add up correctly. This needs to be fixed. Thank you.

~Bobby123179~
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J3ORG3 is not online. J3ORG3
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02 Apr 2013 09:41 AM
tl;dr

and for that reason, am out
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IBLackoutzz is not online. IBLackoutzz
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02 Apr 2013 09:43 AM
agreed.
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Bobby123179 is not online. Bobby123179
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02 Apr 2013 09:45 AM
Thank you blackoutz.
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Bigjohndeerehunter99 is not online. Bigjohndeerehunter99
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02 Apr 2013 09:46 AM
Yes
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Chicken7578 is not online. Chicken7578
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02 Apr 2013 09:46 AM
no it's not that big of a problem your items just suck when it comes to demand

~Too Legit To Quit~
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Crusane is not online. Crusane
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02 Apr 2013 09:48 AM
tl;dr
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dcunited12 is not online. dcunited12
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02 Apr 2013 09:49 AM
I kind of agree

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Bobby123179 is not online. Bobby123179
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02 Apr 2013 11:01 AM
@Chicken- Who decides the demand? Hm? LMaD? Demand has nothing to do with it. As long as there is ONE person that wants it and is willing to offer high for it, it has good demand. For example, PSTF has high demand, right? And it gets like 350K offers, typically, right? What if there's only ONE person doing this, but what if they're offering STF for DPDJ? Because they like the look. Wouldn't that make DPDJ's at least somewhat more valuable to people? Exactly.
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werty9988 is not online. werty9988
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02 Apr 2013 11:04 AM
lol

theres something called demand

ollie is part of the :( set and has high demand.

the rozy is ugly and has no demand
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Frozure is not online. Frozure
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02 Apr 2013 11:06 AM
Lol. We're here getting a lecture about bias from 1 of the most biased people in the whole of LMaD.

Destroy. EVERYTHING! -FЯӨZЦЯΣ
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Bobby123179 is not online. Bobby123179
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02 Apr 2013 11:07 AM
I believe you're mistaken.

Honestly, every hate in the :( set (Except for maybe the indy, TS, and grind) are hideous. The ollie is just... Ew. It's horrible. It's one of the ugliest hats on ROBLOX.

And demand only exists in your imagination.

Rozy looks awesome, goes with any hat combo, and has tons of demand. Why don't you get one and decide for yourself. No one can really judge a hat until they've owned it.
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hail is not online. hail
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02 Apr 2013 11:07 AM
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Bobby123179 is not online. Bobby123179
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02 Apr 2013 11:08 AM
@Frozure- I'm really not biased in the slightest bit.

I just seem extremely biased in comparison to everyone else on LMaD because you're all insanely biased. So in comparison, my facts and logic seem wrong due to your close-minded biased mindset.
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Bobby123179 is not online. Bobby123179
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02 Apr 2013 11:08 AM
I've owned an ollie before. It sucked. Didn't wear it for more than 5 minutes.
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02 Apr 2013 11:09 AM
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Frozure is not online. Frozure
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02 Apr 2013 11:09 AM
I'm sorry but the majority of people in LMaD disagree with you, so you're most likely wrong.

Destroy. EVERYTHING! -FЯӨZЦЯΣ
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Evelio95 is not online. Evelio95
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02 Apr 2013 11:10 AM
Very ironic coming from you, bobby.
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llRedBandedll is not online. llRedBandedll
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02 Apr 2013 11:13 AM

LOLD



Hey Biased Bobby
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Dylan2225 is not online. Dylan2225
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02 Apr 2013 11:14 AM
Biased Bobby Strikes Again!

bobbypls, this is nonsense
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supertissuebox is not online. supertissuebox
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02 Apr 2013 11:15 AM
Good post.
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SeniorHobbit is not online. SeniorHobbit
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02 Apr 2013 11:16 AM
no.
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Bobby123179 is not online. Bobby123179
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02 Apr 2013 01:49 PM
Actually, I see most people supporting me. And I see a couple super biased LMaD'ers claiming that everyone is against me. I'm right. I supported my case with evidence and facts. Where's your proof?
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ninjaradioactivecow is not online. ninjaradioactivecow
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02 Apr 2013 01:52 PM
Woah...
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02 Apr 2013 01:53 PM
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