Jack0414
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:00 PM |
you just potentially converted me to christianity in 1 paragraph good on you jack |
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:03 PM |
oh boy pascals wager
the problem is believing just for the sake of heaven isnt good enough you have to believe because you geniunely believe not as insurance |
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Skellor
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:04 PM |
if the loving god that religion teaches to be real is true
if i live my life in a good way then i should go to heaven |
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:06 PM |
I don't really like athiests who bring up something like this often. Just too, ugh wonder if they disaggreed with any other beliefs. Christanity=Main target for athiests to question |
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Jack0414
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:08 PM |
in other words, christian instead of athiest because of fear
good work society |
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Skellor
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:09 PM |
"Living a good life and loving one another isn't enough. God created this entire universe for us to live in. He deserves honor and glory. If you don't honor him, then why should you be able to spend eternity with him?"
he can send me to hell then
if he creates humanity simply for the purpose of us worshiping him then he's an egotistical ass who isnt worthy of any worship |
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:10 PM |
"He deserves honor and glory."
and skellor would do more honor to god's name through living an upright life than he would through faith without works |
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Arasky
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:11 PM |
| I think your friend has autism |
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Jack0414
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:15 PM |
"I don't believe in God just to go to Heaven, or out of fear of not being able to."
my point was who is more likely to go to heaven
a christian serial killer or an atheist surgeon who has saved hundreds of lives and frequently gives to the poor |
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Jack0414
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:18 PM |
you are not seeing my point
my point is a moral atheist is more worthy of heaven than an immoral christian as long as someone lives a good life god will forgive them their disbelief |
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Jack0414
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Skellor
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:19 PM |
"How is the Lord egotistical?"
well
worshiping him is the #1 requirement of getting into his paradise
"He did not create us simply to worship him; he created us to see how the gift of free choice works."
and then punish those who use their free choice in the "wrong" way
"He wanted to see who would willingly worship him, not just constantly,"
and send the rest downstairs
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:20 PM |
will all christian denominations be eligible for heaven
or does god have one chosen sect and the rest can burn in hell for eternity |
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Skellor
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:21 PM |
"or does god have one chosen sect and the rest can burn in hell for eternity"
apparently jews were gods chosen people anyway |
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| 20 Mar 2013 05:21 PM |
there is only one unpardonable sin
that unpardonable sin is not atheism |
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