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Re: Jews make no sense.

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HaikuOS is not online. HaikuOS
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19 Mar 2013 08:08 PM
The Bible is divided into two sections, the Old Testament and the New Testament.
A "testament" is defined "a covenant between Man and God."
The reason they are divided is because there is an entirely different covenant in the New from the Old.

Jews believe only in the Old Testament. So they do not believe in Jesus or the New Covenant.
Only the Old.

It is also important to note that the Old Testament was written in BC times, dating back to several thousand BC, and the New Testament probably starts after 33 AD. So they are written in vastly different times.

But let's look at what the Old Testament says about the New Covenant and Jesus:

- Old Testament: "Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a v'irgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." - Isiah 7:14
- New Testament: "Behold, a v'irgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." - Matthew 1:23 (Referencing Jesus)

Not to mention the covenant that Jesus brought about was clearly as described by God himself:
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah%2031:31-34&version=KJV

There's a lot more stuff like this, just look at here:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Old-Testament-Christ.html


Jesus precisely correlates with the prophesies of the Old Testament.
Why do Jews simply disregard all of this?

How can you be a Jew and not be a Christian?
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ElectricBlaze is not online. ElectricBlaze
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19 Mar 2013 08:10 PM
...The ignorance here is so amazing I won't even bother to explain your fallacies. But as an ex-Jew (I'm now Atheist), I can assuage you that there are indeed fallacies.

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HaikuOS is not online. HaikuOS
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19 Mar 2013 08:11 PM
>"The ignorance here is so amazing I won't even bother to explain your fallacies."

Translating to...

"I have absolutely no argument against you so I will insult you and pretend that I do."
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watermelonmouse is not online. watermelonmouse
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19 Mar 2013 08:11 PM
Read the Bible further. It tells you why.
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obama1337TESTING is not online. obama1337TESTING
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19 Mar 2013 08:12 PM
how can you be any religion
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lava3321 is not online. lava3321
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19 Mar 2013 08:12 PM
stopped at "the bible divides into two"

1. jews do not follow the new testament you dimwit

2. the jews use the torah, not the biblical old testament

3. you are an idiot

---if you havin hull problems i feel bad for u son, i got 99 problems but a breach aint one
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HaikuOS is not online. HaikuOS
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19 Mar 2013 08:13 PM
>"1. jews do not follow the new testament you dimwit"
That was the very basis of my argument.

>"2. the jews use the torah, not the biblical old testament"
I explicitly explained that, you know, being the basis of my argument and all.

>"3. you are an idiot"
How can one be this freaking stupid?
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ElectricBlaze is not online. ElectricBlaze
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19 Mar 2013 08:13 PM
@Haiku - An assumption for the weak-minded, a feeble attempt at self-asurrance.

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watermelonmouse is not online. watermelonmouse
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19 Mar 2013 08:13 PM
They don't believe it at first. After a few miracles, they start to believe it. On Good
Friday, they don't believe it.

(shortest answer I've got) :3
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HaikuOS is not online. HaikuOS
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19 Mar 2013 08:14 PM
>"Read the Bible further. It tells you why."

It does, it explains the prophesies in much further detail, which all completely correlate with the New Testament.
If the Old Testament predicts precisely the New Testament, then it only seems to me that you would have to deny the Old Testament in order to deny the New Testament.
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HaikuOS is not online. HaikuOS
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19 Mar 2013 08:15 PM
>"An assumption for the weak-minded, a feeble attempt at self-asurrance."

Translating to...

"He called me out. Better insult him again to keep up my image."
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watermelonmouse is not online. watermelonmouse
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19 Mar 2013 08:16 PM
@ HaikuOS

I'm sorry, but you're dumb. I have studied religion for many years. I'm 13 now, and I've been studying this since Pre-K 3. READ THE WHOLE BIBLE!!!!!
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cheeser124 is not online. cheeser124
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19 Mar 2013 08:17 PM
Jesus was Jewish.
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watermelonmouse is not online. watermelonmouse
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19 Mar 2013 08:18 PM
He was.
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lava3321 is not online. lava3321
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19 Mar 2013 08:18 PM
fun fact:
jesus's name is greek for "jeshua", which is aramaic for "joshua"


jesus was named joshua, and his name does not mean anything special.


---if you havin hull problems i feel bad for u son, i got 99 problems but a breach aint one
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hmhroblox5 is not online. hmhroblox5
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19 Mar 2013 08:19 PM
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cheeser124 is not online. cheeser124
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19 Mar 2013 08:20 PM
>jesus's name is greek for "jeshua", which is aramaic for "joshua"

>jesus was named joshua, and his name does not mean anything special.

Except Jesus wasn't greek.
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watermelonmouse is not online. watermelonmouse
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19 Mar 2013 08:20 PM
@ lava3321

Yes it is. It means "The Anointed One"
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InsultDeath is not online. InsultDeath
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19 Mar 2013 08:21 PM
nobody cares about religion.

GTFO
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obama1337TESTING is not online. obama1337TESTING
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19 Mar 2013 08:21 PM
"Except Jesus wasn't greek."

i know a person whose name is fiamma (an italian word), but is not italian.
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ElectricBlaze is not online. ElectricBlaze
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19 Mar 2013 08:21 PM
Anyway, let me inform you that, this whole "bible dividing in two idea" isn't even a Jewish idea. It's a Christian one. The Jewish bible was ADOPTED by the Christians, it was not ADAPTED by the Christians.

The Jewish bible is called the TaNaKh, Ta standing for Torah, Na standing for N'viim which means Prophets, and Kh for Ktvuvim which means Writings. The Jewish bible is separated into three sections, one called Torah, one called Prophets, and one called Writings.

The Torah is supposedly composed of "writings that came from God's mouth himself." Jews believe that this section was handed down to Moses on Mount Sinai,

Prophets is supposedly composed of "descriptions of the words of God's prophets, as he communed with them." Self-explanatory.

Writings is composed of poems and stories that were written by large Jewish figures in immediate post-biblical times.

That is the ENTIRETY of the Jewish bible, the TaNaKh. When the Christians came along and separated them into the "Old Testament" and "New Testament," this did not affect the Jews at all. They TOOK the Jewish TaNaKh, renamed it the Old Testament, and added what they call the New Testament. The Jews did not change.

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obama1337TESTING is not online. obama1337TESTING
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19 Mar 2013 08:22 PM
@watermelonmouse

no, messiah means the annointed one, not jesus.
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watermelonmouse is not online. watermelonmouse
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19 Mar 2013 08:22 PM
Don't make fun of Jews. :3
I'm not Jewish, but don't say things like "Jews make no sense."
That's pretty mean :(
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cheeser124 is not online. cheeser124
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19 Mar 2013 08:22 PM
>i know a person whose name is fiamma (an italian word), but is not italian.

But Jesus wasn't given a greek name
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watermelonmouse is not online. watermelonmouse
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19 Mar 2013 08:23 PM
@ obama1337TESTING

LOOK IT UP!! I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT!!!
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