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| 18 Mar 2013 05:44 PM |
| I'm curious, I use to be an Officer, I dunno if that's still as high as it use to be. But I retired after Ben left. |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:44 PM |
No, but that's not to say it was good when Ben had it, either.
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:45 PM |
Are you kidding me Ben SAVED UAF Before he got it, it was dead. An inactive mess. He got it THOUSANDS of members. It wouldn't have half it's forts, or be near as close to where it is today without him. |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:46 PM |
| Of course it isn't as good. It's better. |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:47 PM |
>Before he got it, it was dead
that's why infinitive was winning a war with RAT and benblue9's only victories were against fledgling clans like IL and roforce right?
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:48 PM |
| Not even close, UAF is rather bad compared to when Benblue held it. When benblue owned UAF they almost beat VAK and brung it to the golden ages of UAF, it was a fun time. |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:48 PM |
It's not as good, but it isnt as bad as like JC or something.
I think you should go try it for yourself.
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:49 PM |
It's a different kind of better
A lot of the corruption and disorganization that was in ben's era is gone |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:50 PM |
@Imp
you obviously don't know much about UAF then. |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:52 PM |
well it can actually win wars now (hasn't been proven against any significant clans, but it's a start)
community isn't the same as it was in ben's era whether that's a good thing or not though is opinion though, not a statistic
also less active from what i see
only way to really get a taste and form your own opinion though is to try it out |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:53 PM |
Allow me to offer a comparison.
Wars won: BB9:0 victories Disco:1 definite, 10+ where the enemy dropped out, in which we agreed no victor would be declared while UAF was winning, 1 tie with close scores, 1 loss (VS)
Members' Rights: BB9: None. Disco: Several, now considered basic amongst many in the community
C&G Popularity: BB9: High Disco: Low
The issue, I feel, is that most people tend to forget Ben as a master of propaganda. He was very good at that, and that is something the present UAF lacks, though we make up for it in terms of actual combat. I may be missing some things, but give me the benefit of the doubt, the mind is fried after 6 hours of constant study.
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:53 PM |
>you obviously don't know much about UAF then.
evidently more than you
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:56 PM |
UAF was fantastic in combat when Ben was around. I was there in when Definite ran it. He eventually became inactive and the group slowly died.
Ben, he lead UCR to victory many times, he started a group that grew thousands of members in just days due to his popularity called RFA (before it was shut down), and in UAF he gained it thousands of members, took on many clans. At the time he lead, groups didn't really claim 'wins' all the time. Because neither side really knew who win, those days where unorganized and wars weren't as official. |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:57 PM |
@imp
do you have a problem orrr |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:58 PM |
"At the time he lead, groups didn't really claim 'wins' all the time."
yyyyyyes they did
"Because neither side really knew who win, those days where unorganized and wars weren't as official."
wars are still unorganized and sides did know who won back in those days |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:59 PM |
Who said we died?
We beat NFC about 24-1. We're beating ART 5-0.
That's not even including all the past wars we have won with DH around. I don't know who Benblue is, but whoever he is he must of been really good. I don't care actually, UAF is probably the best clan in the bis atm. If you want to find out, try us. |
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| 18 Mar 2013 05:59 PM |
I agree with False. We aren't as flashy, BB9 was just really popular, and a lot of people liked him. And that's how people make their opinions on C&G. Truthfully I think UAF is one of the best when it comes to combat. But we're slowly recovering from some not as great times. And we lost to Stonemen Mercs, I will admit. But that was one battle, and not one I know anything about. trying to give an unbiased view oh and plus there's me, and I'm the best GFer evaaar |
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| 18 Mar 2013 06:01 PM |
I like it better now power to the people ye |
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| 18 Mar 2013 06:02 PM |
NFC is bad, so is ART.
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| 18 Mar 2013 06:03 PM |
| @zom, NFC is slightly inactive, but we're better than 90% of the current super clans so.... your opinion is false. Especially since NFC and FC are good allies I'm surprised. |
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