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| 15 Mar 2013 10:49 PM |
Making political parties to gain their own power.
>Say they are making political parties to go back to UCR's original goal of unity and strength
First of all, political parties divide, not unify. Clearly this is a ploy masking your own selfish intentions to gain power and support for yourself in UCR, and it makes the clan dangerous for rebellion.
If you really want to get back to "Unity" maybe you shouldn't have so many clashing opinions in your HICOM, and get people who are willing to compromise, because raw talent wont get your crap if people aren't willing to work with each other.
Yes, I am talking about hamtah and MM.
The only point of your party is power.
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| 15 Mar 2013 10:52 PM |
| I don't recall political parties having anything to do with UCR's original creation or in its operation |
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| 15 Mar 2013 10:53 PM |
"First of all, political parties divide, not unify. " George Washington knew what was up. |
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StudLife
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| 15 Mar 2013 10:57 PM |
| Why don't u just giv it back to kinglime |
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| 15 Mar 2013 10:57 PM |
because KL isn't smart anymore
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Optiics
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| 15 Mar 2013 10:57 PM |
| Thank you for accusing me specifically. Because obviously I am the only one recruiting people for my party. Also I am known for being power hungry because my past has always been about hurting UCR. My ideals have always been wrong. Through good motives I am certainly trying to overpower UCR. [/endsarcasm] |
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Amune
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| 15 Mar 2013 10:59 PM |
Yeah we know
They aren't even working that well, I guess we've got to try it once to see how it works. |
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StudLife
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| 15 Mar 2013 10:59 PM |
But f they want to go back to old times Give it to kinglime |
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:03 PM |
progression > regression
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TDFall
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:05 PM |
Making political parties to gain their own power.
> Yeah, I would imagine as such, since they're the ones who designed and wrote up the entire thing. Oh wait, that was me.
First of all, political parties divide, not unify.
> People have opposing views. That is a given in life and you're a fool if you expect ignorance to triumph over wisdom. Political parties provide us a way by which we can incorporate everyone's ideas into separate blocs. We use these blocs to judge the correct path for UCR's future. You clearly have no understanding of the system. As well as maximizing crowdsourcing, this gives us another base on which to build UCR's culture. We are not a clan permanently entrenched in the past. We build ourselves up constantly and remodel ourselves to fit future needs. What we need right now is an alternative to the war machine that has been fueling the clan, and this is it.
Clearly this is a ploy masking your own selfish intentions to gain power and support for yourself in UCR, and it makes the clan dangerous for rebellion.
> Clearly by placing a number of checks and balances on the system we are doing exactly the opposite of what you said.
If you really want to get back to "Unity" maybe you shouldn't have so many clashing opinions in your HICOM, and get people who are willing to compromise, because raw talent wont get your crap if people aren't willing to work with each other.
> Once again, you clearly have no idea what this reform actually entails. The people vote on a path to take and the HRs follow their will to realize this path. It is not a question of "clashing." We all work together to choose what UCR finds the best road.
Yes, I am talking about hamtah and MM.
> MM had 0 input on the entire process. Hamtah had minimal (though he claims he started the whole thing)
The only point of your party is power.
> As if power was unattainable in other ways. Prove to me that diversifying UCR's choices for future reform is centralizing power. I dare you to try.
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:09 PM |
TD, i already stated my argument in xf lol
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:10 PM |
| Is UCR now a democracy or what |
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Optiics
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:14 PM |
@xxxmost
It was just a step towards democracy. No clan can really be a full democracy. |
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TDFall
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:15 PM |
[00:11] WIJ Officer - EG: i see hamtah as more of a threat than MM [00:12] WIJ Officer - EG: hamtahs a more secretive MM [00:12] [▬TD▬]: hamtah is chill [00:12] WIJ Officer - EG: exactly [00:12] WIJ Officer - EG: but on the inside [00:12] WIJ Officer - EG: he's fuming [00:12] [▬TD▬]: he wants VP but he's not pulling any MM (stuff) to get it [00:12] WIJ Officer - EG: having 3 parties = a lot of support [00:12] WIJ Officer - EG: having a lot of support = power [00:12] WIJ Officer - EG: power = rank [00:12] [▬TD▬]: he doesn't have the parties [00:12] WIJ Officer - EG: he has 3 [00:13] WIJ Officer - EG: i looked [00:13] [▬TD▬]: dumb (poop) [00:13] [▬TD▬]: he's holding the groups [00:13] [▬TD▬]: because cake and jko are NBC [00:13] WIJ Officer - EG: even then [00:13] [▬TD▬]: oh my god [00:13] [▬TD▬]: you are so dumb [00:13] [▬TD▬]: you are really dumb [00:13] [▬TD▬]: fo real
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:16 PM |
It's people trying to extract power from the leader of UCR.
I believe in a HR run clan, i believe that can be a strong clan if it run like that. But Plava is not that type of leader, so i have given up on that dream.
Instead, UCR needs a strong centralized leader, with absolute power.
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:18 PM |
| Yeah, I know. All roblox clans are hierarchy. I was just sayin'. |
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:19 PM |
too political didnt read
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Optiics
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:19 PM |
@EG
Claims people in UCR trying to gain power are corrupt.
Says he wants leader with absolute power.
your logic = flawed |
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:21 PM |
The leader has the right to the power.
It's not corrupt for them to have it, it is corrupt for HRs to take it through abstract measures.
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TDFall
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:23 PM |
guess what poison approved the reform members are really excited about it dealwithit.gif |
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:25 PM |
I've said i haven't like what plava has done with IA, but do like what she's done in FA
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| 15 Mar 2013 11:29 PM |
Lol. New UCR.
~~~> TnU; That Trust Guy ~ |
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