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Dynamite2787 is not online. Dynamite2787
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10 Mar 2013 06:57 PM
I, myself, request that raiding continues between RIU and UCR.

The reason UCR stopped raiding between the two clans is because they raided our fort with over 40 members, called in many superclans, but still lost to around 30-35 RIU members.

They then went on and complained that the fort wasn't 'fair', even though both teams have to do the same thing to receive guns.

These are the common complains currently:

1. RIU is killing us with OP guns while we only have swords.
> The reason RIU has guns, is because that member was able to get 5 more kills than deaths, getting 5 'credits'. UCR has to do the same thing RIU does to receive guns. Secondly, they are not OP, we get the same guns.

2. RIU is spawnkilling the raiders before we are able to get our swords.
>All I have to say to this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmWVGzgiuJA

These are what UCR requests RIU changes to our fort:

1. To spawn with swords, so we don't have to walk into a cave to get one. It's a complete waste of time.
>We have a 'unique' way to get our weapons. Each team has to do the same thing to get weapons. Hence, it is fair. In additon, the raiders armory is closer to the spawn then RIUs armory is from our spawn.

2. That RIU no longer spawn in their base, so we can both have a fair chance to get the flag.
> We spawn far away from the flag.

3. Reduce the amount of damage that the guns deal to us.
> All weapons are the same, deal thew same damage, are obtainable the same way. It is completely fair.

RIU has declined to change anything with our fort.

Now for RIU to UCR:

If the war does continue, please do not cancel the war because of rage quit directly after you lose one server, and not allow RIU to retaliate raid. RIU has already gotten multiple raid wins (before the war officially started). We know we can win, and so do you. Please do not cancel because you know we will retaliate and receive a raid win.

Thank you.

[★] Dyna
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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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10 Mar 2013 06:58 PM

Thank you for saving me time from typing it.

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ExplosiveGrenade is not online. ExplosiveGrenade
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10 Mar 2013 06:59 PM
I went to RIU's base
it is a joke

So yes, they shouldn't raid.

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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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10 Mar 2013 07:00 PM
"I went to RIU's base
it is a joke

So yes, they shouldn't raid."

Your reasoning for it being a "joke" is invalid.


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Dynamite2787 is not online. Dynamite2787
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10 Mar 2013 07:00 PM
"I went to RIU's base
it is a joke

So yes, they shouldn't raid."

Please explain why.
I just answered all the reasons I could find about why they found it unfair.

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FoggyMountains is not online. FoggyMountains
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10 Mar 2013 07:03 PM
There are different levels of guns. The more kills you get, the higher gun damage it is.

However, the firerate is decreased for each level assault you obtain.
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10 Mar 2013 07:04 PM
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hacker1leo is not online. hacker1leo
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10 Mar 2013 07:05 PM
1. RIU is killing us with OP guns while we only have swords.
> The reason RIU has guns, is because that member was able to get 5 more kills than deaths, getting 5 'credits'. UCR has to do the same thing RIU does to receive guns. Secondly, they are not OP, we get the same guns.

:: The thing is, We don't "get" guns. You have to be there first, and since it takes less time for RIU to reach the flag and opposing team's base- It's naturally easier to garner points. Basically you just grind at the choke points you give us- while we cannot do the same.

2. RIU is spawnkilling the raiders before we are able to get our swords.
>All I have to say to this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmWVGzgiuJA

:: So when we give it back, you've got some big stake in it? You still have a spawnkilling issue that is your responsibility to resolve.

These are what UCR requests RIU changes to our fort:

1. To spawn with swords, so we don't have to walk into a cave to get one. It's a complete waste of time.
>We have a 'unique' way to get our weapons. Each team has to do the same thing to get weapons. Hence, it is fair. In additon, the raiders armory is closer to the spawn then RIUs armory is from our spawn.

:: Aka You have a way to get your weapons where you can claim it's fair even though it's really not. Just like America can have a war for peace even though it's really for more oil.

2. That RIU no longer spawn in their base, so we can both have a fair chance to get the flag.
> We spawn far away from the flag.

:: It takes us longer to get to the flag.

3. Reduce the amount of damage that the guns deal to us.
> All weapons are the same, deal thew same damage, are obtainable the same way. It is completely fair.

:: This is agreeable.

RIU has declined to change anything with our fort.

:: Deplorable at best.

Now for RIU to UCR:

If the war does continue, please do not cancel the war because of rage quit directly after you lose one server, and not allow RIU to retaliate raid. RIU has already gotten multiple raid wins (before the war officially started). We know we can win, and so do you. Please do not cancel because you know we will retaliate and receive a raid win.

:: We're not 'retaliating'. We're not tolerating your loaded defense over your unfair place. Ours is actually fair and accommodates all players- that's why when your skilled players play they win and when our skilled players play they win. Because it's less about advantage and more about skill and working with what's available for BOTH ends.
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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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10 Mar 2013 07:11 PM
"The thing is, We don't "get" guns. You have to be there first, and since it takes less time for RIU to reach the flag and opposing team's base- It's naturally easier to garner points. Basically you just grind at the choke points you give us- while we cannot do the same."

Low Infantry, Prim Infantry, and majority of the High Infantry must get a firearm the same way you can.

So they don't just get a "gun" either.

Another thing, RIU can't get a gun without "raiders" being there- because that is the only way of getting credits to obtain a gun.

"So when we give it back, you've got some big stake in it? You still have a spawnkilling issue that is your responsibility to resolve."

UCR has an FF killing and spawnkilling issue, I have no seen one RIU "spawnkilling" a UCR.

"Aka You have a way to get your weapons where you can claim it's fair even though it's really not."

How is it "unfair"?

" Just like America can have a war for peace even though it's really for more oil."

Oh God, you're one of those.

"It takes us longer to get to the flag."

If you open the gate you can get there at the same time RIU does, yet alone use the spawn cap device.

"We're not 'retaliating'. We're not tolerating your loaded defense over your unfair place. Ours is actually fair and accommodates all players- that's why when your skilled players play they win and when our skilled players play they win. Because it's less about advantage and more about skill and working with what's available for BOTH ends."

You can't keep on saying it's unfair when your reasoning has been proven wrong this entire time.

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Dynamite2787 is not online. Dynamite2787
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10 Mar 2013 07:12 PM
":: The thing is, We don't "get" guns. You have to be there first, and since it takes less time for RIU to reach the flag and opposing team's base- It's naturally easier to garner points. Basically you just grind at the choke points you give us- while we cannot do the same."
> RIU doesn't have to be there first. You can wait at your spawn and wait for us to show up. You then cannot say it is easier to receive credits, the only way to get credits is by killing. The reason we get more credits would be because we are more 'skilled' (no flame intended)

":: Aka You have a way to get your weapons where you can claim it's fair even though it's really not. Just like America can have a war for peace even though it's really for more oil."
>I do not understand this, we both have a way to get weapons, it is infact easier for you too.

"

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poisonlava is not online. poisonlava
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10 Mar 2013 07:16 PM
The reason UCR stopped raiding between the two clans is because they raided our fort with over 40 members, called in many superclans, but still lost to around 30-35 RIU members.

- UCR had roughly 20 members and did not bring any allied support, gg.

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Your base is unfair, you say that getting the guns is the same procedure, however it's merely impossible for UCR to even GET five credits when you guys sit at our spawn, and or the gate and kill us with your OP weapons. We have to chase you down with a sword, win without tying, and repeat that process five times. Also, while on a join.me with one of my soldiers, I saw an RIU member CHASE ROBLOXHAMTAH while he tried to get a sword from the cave. Like, what the hell is that?

You say you spawn the same amount of space away from the flag as raiders do, but you really don't. We spawn at the end of the map, in a trench; while you spawn in a building in the city, only a short distance from the flag. Also while doing the mini-obstacle to get to the gate that stands between raider's area and the gate, there is an invisible block; so we have to climb that, to only seconds later meet the sword of an RIU member slicing into us before we've even had a chance to walk straight.

Another thing; you say your armoury is the same amount of distance as ours, however by the time we're in and out of our armoury and RIU is too, you've already got OP guns shooting us down. Our raid was pretty organized and the numbers were fair; UCR can fight and I know they would have more success if your base wasn't so awkward.

I mean, I could name numerous changes I'd absolutely love to see in your base, one being that stupid GUI that requires "I agree to terms of play" to be typed perfectly, but the fact you won't even make SMALL adjustments to your gun power saddens me.

RIU is an annoying, stuck up and unfair clan and I absolutely refuse to send my soldiers in to waste their time until you can adjust your current settings.
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Dynamite2787 is not online. Dynamite2787
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10 Mar 2013 07:16 PM
Notice how UCR just 'stops' flaming our base now.

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Dynamite2787 is not online. Dynamite2787
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10 Mar 2013 07:17 PM
DANGIT PLAVA
im getting tired of saying the same things over and over again

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Dynamite2787 is not online. Dynamite2787
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10 Mar 2013 07:18 PM
"Your base is unfair, you say that getting the guns is the same procedure, however it's merely impossible for UCR to even GET five credits when you guys sit at our spawn, and or the gate and kill us with your OP weapons. We have to chase you down with a sword, win without tying, and repeat that process five times. Also, while on a join.me with one of my soldiers, I saw an RIU member CHASE ROBLOXHAMTAH while he tried to get a sword from the cave. Like, what the hell is that?"

Our members got 5 credits before your members did. There is nothing unfair about that.

[★] Dyna
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poisonlava is not online. poisonlava
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10 Mar 2013 07:19 PM
Now, I'm done wasting my time arguing with you - I shouldn't have wasted my time with RIU in the first place. You guys cried for war, now we cry for simple change that you refuse to make. So, I'll be stubborn like you.

Raids are called off, RIU is removed from enemies and all raids from RIU on UCR are unofficial until you agree to negotiate. I refuse to make my members anymore unhappy.
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Dynamite2787 is not online. Dynamite2787
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10 Mar 2013 07:19 PM
" Also while doing the mini-obstacle to get to the gate that stands between raider's area and the gate, there is an invisible block;"

I'm sorry? There is no 'invisible block' that prevents you from completing the mini-obstacle course

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Icecreamtopblank is not online. Icecreamtopblank
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10 Mar 2013 07:21 PM
I think we all are Dyna
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Icecreamtopblank is not online. Icecreamtopblank
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10 Mar 2013 07:22 PM
Dyna that Invisible block encourages camping...
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pieisgreat is not online. pieisgreat
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10 Mar 2013 08:41 PM
Twinkie, please explain how we have access to buy these weapons for the 5 credits we 'have', when you guys can whenever... especially when all your members have over 40 credits, cause they spawn kill/camp, and guard every possible way in.

~ Lambo mercy Pie ~
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TDFall is not online. TDFall
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10 Mar 2013 08:50 PM
posting it here too cause I can
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1. RIU is killing us with OP guns while we only have swords.
> The reason RIU has guns, is because that member was able to get 5 more kills than deaths, getting 5 'credits'. UCR has to do the same thing RIU does to receive guns. Secondly, they are not OP, we get the same guns.

• Yes, except there are people in RIU (very active people, nonetheless) who receive these guns for free. These individuals merely have to kill the UCR members from afar and drop their ratios into the negative so that acquiring a gun becomes nearly unattainable. Also, the armory in the cave does not give guns. Even if a UCR were to get 5 kills or more, they would have to enter the city itself, which would obviously be full of RIU. I asked twinks last night why the cave didn't give guns, and he said it would be "OP." Ironic, isn't it?

2. RIU is spawnkilling the raiders before we are able to get our swords.
>All I have to say to this:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmWVGzgiuJA

• Are you joking? There are 3 "raiders" in the server. If RIU wanted him dead they could have obviously done so, but instead you chose to leave him there for the sake of the "video proof." Now, aside from the video itself, I understand it is completely possible for UCR to spawnkill RIU and vice versa. This is a flaw in the game design and does not justify RIU's actions.

These are what UCR requests RIU changes to our fort:

1. To spawn with swords, so we don't have to walk into a cave to get one. It's a complete waste of time.
>We have a 'unique' way to get our weapons. Each team has to do the same thing to get weapons. Hence, it is fair. In additon, the raiders armory is closer to the spawn then RIUs armory is from our spawn.

• When you spawn, you are completely vulnerable and can do nothing but run away to cover or the armory. For the raider team, the armory doesn't even give weapons if you have the 5 kills, assuming you can get them when twinks starts with the strongest gun in the game. The difference in distance between armories is negligible at best and doesn't support your point.

2. That RIU no longer spawn in their base, so we can both have a fair chance to get the flag.
> We spawn far away from the flag.

• You spawn directly in front of our objective, and can easily climb the cliffs to get there. If you want to play a silly numbers game like you did in your previous assertion, you spawn at least 5x closer to the flag than we do to it. Twinkie stated that the spawns would switch once the flag has been captured, but I have discovered that this simply does not happen. This bug should be patched as the first of all the changes that ought to be made.

3. Reduce the amount of damage that the guns deal to us.
> All weapons are the same, deal thew same damage, are obtainable the same way. It is completely fair.

• Guns move up in different levels, from 1 to 3. Certain RIU members start at the 3rd level gun, which is a 5 hit kill and accurate over long range. Don't say "oh, there are only a few RIU who have this advantage," because these few are the most active and are almost always present during raids.
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Enzo666 is not online. Enzo666
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10 Mar 2013 08:52 PM
UCR Head of Warfare Declared RIU Stellar City Fair.
If you were going to declare it unfair anyway, then why did you send him?

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TDFall is not online. TDFall
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10 Mar 2013 08:53 PM
We declared it fair because they told us a couple lies about the base, and we had not actually seen it in action. It turns out that there were multiple bugs that skewed the fairness of the base and in practice RIU did not hold to their honor, spawnkilling despite assurances they would not.
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Enzo666 is not online. Enzo666
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10 Mar 2013 08:53 PM
TDfall;
We start with no Tools just as you do.
We can only use Swords until we have 5 CREDITS (Kills, KDR effects it) just like you can.
qq

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Enzo666 is not online. Enzo666
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10 Mar 2013 08:56 PM
We don't Spawn in the base, it's a City. We spawn a fair distance from the flag.
And when WE Spawn, we are just as vulnerable
I'm saying this as someone in the middle of the fighting.

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TDFall is not online. TDFall
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10 Mar 2013 08:59 PM
As I was explaining before, there are a select few who are basically always at the base who get the most powerful weapons at the start and are able to decimate UCR's credit count so that we can't get guns ourselves. Also, you can literally climb the cliffs and be at the flag in 30 seconds.
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