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The BlueMoo accusations on WIJ FB team

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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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03 Mar 2013 07:11 AM
Wouldn't surprise me.

WIJ refuse to accept a neutral war zone or independent host. They insist they must host the map. Idontkno (known for hosting FBs such as UAF vs TD) was going to host a battle but owen refused to let him hold the map even though he built it - owen said he wanted to re-script it his own way, even though the game's script was perfectly fine. Owen said he wanted to do it 'manually' so I said sure, I will do it for you, I will upload the scripts you want uploading then put the map on uncopylock for you to confirm. He insisted he would be the last person to upload it, why? Well since he would allow for me to view the map afterwards I suspect he would be using hidden services.

Anyway I have fought most of the WIJ ST, most of them I have been able to defeat quite easily. Though when hosting they're own FBs, they have never lost. TGI Glads have lost to them, TGI Glads have arguably the best fighters on Roblox. I just doubt WIJ's legitimacy until they actually fight at an independent war zone other than they're own. Until then they can't claim to be good let alone the best.
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Daniel3613 is not online. Daniel3613
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03 Mar 2013 07:14 AM
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evey93 is not online. evey93
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03 Mar 2013 07:14 AM
BlueMoo said he was grg148.
Grg148 has a friend named grg147.
The two both would go to WIJ trainings, wear the shirt, and not the pants, would act the trainer, tell people to "go die", and were just generally annoying.

I'm not sure what he has against WIJ, but his excuses for not putting the pictures can now be proved fake by that one piece of evidence.

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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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03 Mar 2013 07:15 AM
Evey I would agree his accusations may not be true, but a similar true scenario would not surprise me.
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Bleerp is not online. Bleerp
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03 Mar 2013 07:16 AM
Why don't you just insert swords and a gun chosen by both sides on a baseplate with ROBLOX teams?
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evey93 is not online. evey93
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03 Mar 2013 07:17 AM
Do you even have any proof WIJ does things like this, or are you still just going off on what Grg said?

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jammy101101 is not online. jammy101101
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03 Mar 2013 07:18 AM
you're going off data of an alt made by an alt that has two alts that do nothing more than argue and troll that's impersonating another guy (me lol)

how can the data be in any way valid
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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03 Mar 2013 07:20 AM
Jammy you obviously didn't read my last post, I didn't say his data was valid, I'm simply questioning the facts I have put out.

Same goes for you evay, I'm not saying my accusations are true but unless a clan is willing to battle on a map it doesn't host at least once I am not going to take that clan seriously.
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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03 Mar 2013 07:22 AM
'Why don't you just insert swords and a gun chosen by both sides on a baseplate with ROBLOX teams?'

What stops them inserting a script to give health advantages etc?

If your response is to uncopylock the map then my answer back would be hidden services, if you don't know what a hidden service is I recommend you don't respond until you have searched up on it.
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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03 Mar 2013 07:23 AM
'you're going off data of an alt made by an alt'

Not to mention you were clearly to ignorant to read the content of my thread considering none of it was anything he has said.
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TheDuskReaper is not online. TheDuskReaper
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03 Mar 2013 07:23 AM
I can completely agree with your stance on the matter.
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Bleerp is not online. Bleerp
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03 Mar 2013 07:28 AM
Get a third-party member to join in and make them all.

Join both groups, randomly pick them, etc.
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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03 Mar 2013 07:30 AM
I agree bleerp, that's what we tried to set up but like I stated, WIJ refuse to fight in an independent war zone, or a map hosted by an independent host.
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Bleerp is not online. Bleerp
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03 Mar 2013 07:33 AM
That is kind of suspicious, if anything, it should be a PBS with an explorer tool that all members playing could see.

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owen0202 is not online. owen0202
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03 Mar 2013 07:35 AM
Can't argue with all that proof you guys have.

Oh wait, you have none.
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hydrodash is not online. hydrodash
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03 Mar 2013 07:43 AM
This is going to be interesting...
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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03 Mar 2013 07:50 AM
'Can't argue with all that proof you guys have.

Oh wait, you have none.'

Another ignorant response, I am not accusing you of having lost, what I am saying is that you refuse to fight on a warzone which you have not hosted. This is fact, if not you can prove me otherwise right now. My argument is not that you have cheated, it's just questioning the factors at play. My argument is what I have posted, it does not include proof you have cheated but it is questioning it.

I see you fail to respond to any argument set your way with two lines. It further begs the question.
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hydrodash is not online. hydrodash
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03 Mar 2013 07:54 AM
Just do what Bleerp said...
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Bleerp is not online. Bleerp
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03 Mar 2013 07:59 AM
Thank you, hydro.
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Gargix is not online. Gargix
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03 Mar 2013 08:08 AM
Personally, I have fought on the WIJ grounds, and I think its a fine battlefield, and I doubt WIJ would cheat,


However, I did notice they deny any other location for the FB's they are involved in.
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owen0202 is not online. owen0202
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03 Mar 2013 08:12 AM
There has only been a single case of WIJ refusing to use a battleground, and that was one celest proposed. We spoke to LordVydrak about it and he agreed both sides demands were unreasonable and requested we build a new map with clan neutral guns which I did so:

http://www.roblox.com/RCL-Bricktops-place?id=108188364

Celestus is just bitter that despite abusing glitches in the map he got anhiliated in the LS final battle.
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shadowlite56 is not online. shadowlite56
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03 Mar 2013 08:12 AM
I see what you're saying.

They do deny every place that isn't theirs.
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Gargix is not online. Gargix
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03 Mar 2013 08:14 AM
I didn't say you refused to use another ground, I said you don't.
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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03 Mar 2013 08:19 AM
'There has only been a single case of WIJ refusing to use a battleground, and that was one celest proposed. '

Lie, that was the first time I had been to that map. It was LordVydrak who proposed it. You insist to be the last uploader of whatever map is chosen, which makes me question the legitimacy.
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Celestus is not online. Celestus
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03 Mar 2013 08:21 AM
Our only demand was to have a neutral host, not you hosting it. Neither me nor LordVydrak saw that as unreasonable. We saw your request to be the final uploader of the map unreasonable. If you aren't going to be lenient on that I will tell you now no war will go ahead.
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