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| 02 Mar 2013 01:25 AM |
Everyday, I go onto this site and I wonder why certain features are BC only. For example, the ability to create or own a group, or expanding the amount of groups you can join. Both are unnecessarily placed as BC features because ROBLOX obviously needs money. They also made some unfair BC features, like the trade system and BC places. They even plan for more features in the future to be BC only.
But let's think; are more BC features really necessary? Sure, ROBLOX is a gaming company and they need money, but it can be simply deduced that they're earning more than enough profit from their current paying customers. There is no threat of bankruptcy, and as far as I know they can pay their employees and still have enough left over for updates. And ROBLOX is not a small company; if they're able to hold their own conference several times over throughout the years, without any other vendors there, you can clearly see that they're pretty large.
That's why my suggestion is simple. It may be taken in the wrong sense, but honestly, I don't expect any sane person to reject this idea. ROBLOX, allow for all future updates to be free to NBC. No catches, like "you have to pay R$" or "to do more, get BC". The entirety of updates should be available. If you find that a certain update must definitely be BC only, then go ahead and make it BC only. The thing is that in return, you have to take a feature out of "beta testing" and make it available to all. Better to provide an example; say you create a BC-only update. You then have to make one of the current BC-only features open to all. (Like the trade system or group ownership)
I hope you take this into serious consideration, ROBLOX. This could seriously attract players due to the absence of a constrictive attitude to non-paying customers. Free-to-play is on the rise, and we shouldn't become the polar opposite of that or else people will be driven away. Trust me on this; I've been discouraged in ROBLOX since 2010, but I kept coming back because I had faith they could turn it around.
Let me use the rest of this thread to shoot down illogical arguments.
"ROBLOX will lose money." - ROBLOX gains more than enough money already. If they can pay all of their employees, hold their own conferences, and still have enough left over for updates, then it's evident that they are seeing HUGE profits.
"We paid, you didn't." - Don't even. This is old and opinionated. It's like saying that you are better than someone because you get a certain newspaper or a certain brand of coffee over them. It's just stupid.
"NBC will take over." - First off; it's sad for you to think that BC members were in control in the first place. They receive no authoritative power in ROBLOX just because they bought BC. Second, in the case of group ownership, NBC players sometimes make good leaders. I can name several examples, like my friend Micropower, who leads raids against the largest military corporations like MSU and wins hands-down.
That's all the arguments that I can think of at the moment. It's late.
In short conclusion, ROBLOX, take this idea (keeping BC features at a constant number through future updates) into consideration.
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| 02 Mar 2013 01:44 AM |
First of all, to reply to this controversy, I'd like to explain to you why this is both not needed at all and needed.
1. ROBLOX Headquarters are located in the United States of America. America is currently in debt, by more than 1/2 a million dollars, I suppose, at March 1st, President Barack Obama stated that he will sign the proclamation for a higher amount of reducing budget cuts, USA is still on debt, so then Obama was forced to sign it. Anyways, ROBLOX needs more employees to be the head of the help e-mails in ROBLOX, i.e. info@roblox.com, they need much more people in the process of helping and answering problems around the clock. They need breaks sometimes, and when they take breaks, they need someone else to do the job for them. So, ROBLOX actually needs more employees so they need to keep some EXTRA money for that cause. When they get to hiring extra employees they'll probably cut back a while for the Builder's Club only items.
2. I agree with you in a different way; just for those members in ROBLOX that can't afford Builders Club, I think that ROBLOX should create a lottery on win Builder's Club for a month or more, maybe ROBLOX could reduce the BC empowerment with updating one item in ROBLOX with NBC and BC arrangements.
That's my side of the story, I take both leads, for they will always have a reason.
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| 02 Mar 2013 08:39 AM |
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It is extreme foolish to write "(No TL;DRs)"... Seriously, are you just begging for "tl;dr"s or what?....
>"ROBLOX will lose money." - ROBLOX gains more than enough money already. If they can pay all of their employees, hold their own conferences, and still have enough left over for updates, then it's evident that they are seeing HUGE profits.
*In opening previously BC-only features to the public, the number of BC members will shrink... even if you add more BC features, most of the ones that people badly want will be open to the public, therefore... those "HUGE profits" will decrease as well...
>"We paid, you didn't." - Don't even. This is old and opinionated. It's like saying that you are better than someone because you get a certain newspaper or a certain brand of coffee over them. It's just stupid.
*I don't agree with this. You are right for calling this illogical.*
>"NBC will take over." - First off; it's sad for you to think that BC members were in control in the first place. They receive no authoritative power in ROBLOX just because they bought BC. Second, in the case of group ownership, NBC players sometimes make good leaders. I can name several examples, like my friend Micropower, who leads raids against the largest military corporations like MSU and wins hands-down.
*This sounds like Builder's Club nationalism... (mentioning your friend will probably lead a troll to start insulting him on this forum)*
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In the long run, I like your idea... But some features need to stay BC forever... Including making and owning groups, making shirts and pants, and selling items. All these are a big part of ROBLOX's mini-economical initiatives... Builder's Club isn't just about building places; it's also about building businesses, rather they be for money or "military power"...or maybe even influence...
But, as long as these original points are protected from becoming NBC, I support.
Otherwise, I will campaign against it, if possible.
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| 02 Mar 2013 08:42 AM |
I agree with Demetreous, nice statements. ;)
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| 02 Mar 2013 08:53 AM |
First off:
""We paid, you didn't." - Don't even. This is old and opinionated. It's like saying that you are better than someone because you get a certain newspaper or a certain brand of coffee over them. It's just stupid."
>This is idiotic. They did pay, that's not even close to an opinion. Is a fact. And, they bought that newspaper or coffee. I mean, they bought it, why would you deserve it for nothing when they pay for it?
Anyways, this is totally idiocy that was put behind a façade to make it look better than what it is. You make points, saying ROBLOX has enough money to let NBC get BC features for free, but what happens after? People stop buying BC, because they are losing what they bought. Which is basically a form of theft from ROBLOX. If you bought a shirt from a company, and someone else wanted that shirt, how would you feel if the company ripped the shirt in half and have the halves to both of you, even though you bought it? It would not be fair. Now, money would decrease, so the first resort would be to not have updates, which could eventually run ROBLOX down from a lot of business. So, you are basically asking ROBLOX to steal from the users who keep them in business, which leads them out of business. This idea has many flaws to it. |
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| 02 Mar 2013 08:54 AM |
Danke, Roblox. c:
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| 02 Mar 2013 09:43 AM |
| Would you go to an airline lounge and start screaming at them because they won't give you first class tickets for the price of economy class? No, that's dumb. So is whining about BC rights. |
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| 02 Mar 2013 02:14 PM |
Should have read the comments, surge.
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| 02 Mar 2013 02:24 PM |
@Midtownmadness
You are the reason I wish ROBLOX would IP Ban mass spammers...
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| 02 Mar 2013 02:26 PM |
@demet you are the reason of birth control |
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| 02 Mar 2013 02:32 PM |
@Mid: Yes, you do like to do that. To sheep.
@OP: Implying they're making more BC only features? Anyway, roblox _!_IS_!_ free to play. Just like a lot of other games.
The free to play genre of game gets money from people paying to get additional features, something roblox does and in my opinion has perfected.
No, the game ITSELF costs nothing. But if you want to have EVERYTHING the game has to offer, you need to pay. That's how it works. In practically every single multiplayer free to play ever. |
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| 02 Mar 2013 02:36 PM |
I do eat crap. Anosmia does cure hatred for flatulance.
And you first. |
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| 02 Mar 2013 02:37 PM |
@Mid
You are the reason for the death penalty. |
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| 02 Mar 2013 02:41 PM |
@demet I've got balls of steel |
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| 02 Mar 2013 03:24 PM |
| Roblox needs money to run the servers, if we didn't pay, we couldn't play, as servers cost money, my friend. |
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| 03 Mar 2013 01:05 AM |
@Demetreous:
"In opening previously BC-only features to the public, the number of BC members will shrink... even if you add more BC features, most of the ones that people badly want will be open to the public, therefore... those "HUGE profits" will decrease as well..."
> Let me answer this with an excerpt from the original post: "If you find that a certain update must definitely be BC only, then go ahead and make it BC only." This does not mean that the BC features people badly want will be turned over to NBC. There can be updates made that are even more desirable by NBC and are justifiably for BC members. An example of this is daily ROBUX income.
"...some features need to stay BC forever... Including making and owning groups, making shirts and pants, and selling items."
> I never said that selling your own items should be NBC. The things that are BC-only (unnecessarily) are the trade system and group ownership. Those things are BC-only, but they really shouldn't be when compared to other features, like the before-mentioned daily ROBUX income.
@Paramore2, surge905
Your ignorance and illogical arguments are the reasons why ROBLOX has not noticed any NBC threads concerning BC, no matter how brilliant they are.
"They did pay, that's not even close to an opinion. Is a fact."
> This is ridiculous. Truly, it is. Your assumption can be compared to saying that a certain band sucks is fact. Which it isn't. That is pure opinion.
"You make points, saying ROBLOX has enough money to let NBC get BC features for free, but what happens after? People stop buying BC, because they are losing what they bought. Which is basically a form of theft from ROBLOX."
> You clearly didn't read the thread. The features taken down are replaced with new ones, more desirable and justified than the ones in place today. How can it be theft if the thief gives you something better and more valuable in return?
"Would you go to an airline lounge and start screaming at them because they won't give you first class tickets for the price of economy class? No, that's dumb. So is whining about BC rights."
> Really, I wasn't planning on "screaming and whining", but when idiots like you come along and illogically criticize a thread like this, it just has to be done. First off, this cannot be compared at all to your unlikely airport scenario. First class has amenities that cover its price. BC does not. BC has features that should justifiably be free, and keep the game from becoming any more popular. Secondly, how is this whining? Until now, there have been no insults thrown, and through both my original thread and my response, I haven't fully capitalized a single word nor have I even used an exclamation point. This is asking politely and getting denied by idiots, not whining and getting denied by "the NBC police". |
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| 03 Mar 2013 01:18 AM |
I could care less what others have to say about my post,but here is my opinion.
There are some good points on this thread,but it is highly unlikely that Roblox will make any of the BC features available to NBC without a catch.
NBC users get a lot when you think about it.Be happy with what you got and stop asking for more.
That,and we still paid for these benefits.The fact that you want more for free annoys me. |
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