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Re: Everyone's opinions on Hillary Rodham Clinton?

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LadyMoo is not online. LadyMoo
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15 Feb 2013 09:29 PM
I think she's personally one of the most powerful and most inspiring woman in America: Maybe even the world.

She's held SO many positions, and has actually done work, unlike other female people who have upheld the ranks she's had.

I personally think she has a high chance in 2016.

What's everyone's opinions?

[NOTE: JUST BE RESPECTFUL. Even if Republicans start denying these things I am saying, just PLEASE be respectful on here]
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LadyMoo is not online. LadyMoo
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15 Feb 2013 09:37 PM
Bump .-.
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LadyMoo is not online. LadyMoo
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15 Feb 2013 09:48 PM
Hello? -.-
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UraniumSpoon is not online. UraniumSpoon
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15 Feb 2013 10:55 PM
she's a dingbat
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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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16 Feb 2013 12:55 AM
She is the best at stalling to avoid things.
She couldn't talk about Benghazi first because of a party in Australia.
Then she "coincidentally" had a terrible fall.
Then there was that horrible blood clot.
Took a few months to get her to talk about Benghazi.
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LadyMoo is not online. LadyMoo
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16 Feb 2013 08:19 AM
Hmmmmm
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XC62 is not online. XC62
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16 Feb 2013 09:00 AM
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LadyMoo is not online. LadyMoo
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16 Feb 2013 01:08 PM
Eh true.
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Texar is not online. Texar
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16 Feb 2013 01:09 PM
"She is the best at stalling to avoid things.
She couldn't talk about Benghazi first because of a party in Australia.
Then she "coincidentally" had a terrible fall.
Then there was that horrible blood clot.
Took a few months to get her to talk about Benghazi."

Ah, yes, because we live in a fantasy world where we can TOTALLY control when we get ill...

She's no spring chicken, is it really that unbelievable that an old lady's body is facing some problems now and again? Why we as a nation choose to put the old and not far from end of life in charge of our nation I shall never understand, especially given these leadership age preferences were establish long ago when the average lifespan was significantly shorter...


"I personally think she has a high chance in 2016."

Hillary Clinton seems like a great woman and her career has certainly been successful but I wouldn't get my hopes up for a 2016 run and if she does we really shouldn't blindly follow her, both parties will be running fresh meat in that election (hopefully the GOP getting the hint and going for more socially liberal yet still fiscally conservative candidates, give us at least a somewhat decent race) so hopefully we'll have some decent alternative choices to review and we can see who's a better President among them, if that turns out to be her then great, if not then sorry about her luck but the party and the nation don't need to downgrade because a lesser option happens to be better liked.
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XC62 is not online. XC62
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16 Feb 2013 01:24 PM
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LadyMoo is not online. LadyMoo
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16 Feb 2013 01:33 PM
@XC

I've watched some interviews, and she seems to answer every question >_>

The only thing I didn't see her answer was some romantic question about her and Bill.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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16 Feb 2013 01:34 PM
A power-hungry communist
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Varese is not online. Varese
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16 Feb 2013 01:47 PM
"A power-hungry communist"

What's communism Pepper?
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LadyMoo is not online. LadyMoo
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16 Feb 2013 02:04 PM
@Pepper
I don't think your quite right...

:p
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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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16 Feb 2013 02:06 PM
"Ah, yes, because we live in a fantasy world where we can TOTALLY control when we get ill..."

Yes, because we live in a world where it is all too easy to avoid stuff by pretending to be sick and/or bribing doctors.
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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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16 Feb 2013 02:13 PM
"A power-hungry communist"

Nah, thats a bit far.
"Greedy government socialist." would be more accurate.
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Texar is not online. Texar
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16 Feb 2013 02:19 PM
'She is obviously not honest enough to become pres."

Ignoring for a moment all the nonsense before this: you honestly believe that honesty has anything to do with being the President??? LOL, WOW! That's hilarious, I bet you still think we're a Democracy and that the President controls everything, too? xD


"Yes, because we live in a world where it is all too easy to avoid stuff by pretending to be sick and/or bribing doctors."

A.) It's more likely that she, an old lady, was actually sick than that it's some big conspiracy. Meet Occam's Razor, bud.
"among competing hypotheses, the one that makes the fewest assumptions should be selected."
You're assuming that she's lying, that the news is lying, that doctors/medical professionals are lying, that she is perfectly healthy, that she has committed several crimes to establish the news of this medical scare, that she is hiding from the stupid Benghazi attack, and that there's a conspiracy around all this. I merely assume what we have been told, that she had faced a medical scare, actually happened.

B.) If she had bribed a doctor, it would likely have been discovered, these things always are.

C.) It's frankly quite sad and just sick what you're doing, sorry that reality doesn't line up with your insane delusions but don't try to take it out on everyone else, go watch/read some credible, non-partisan, minimally biased news/books and get caught up with the real world instead.
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XC62 is not online. XC62
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16 Feb 2013 02:23 PM
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Texar is not online. Texar
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16 Feb 2013 02:28 PM
Well, let's ignore for a moment that politicians by their vary nature are rarely, if ever, honest and that we've had quite many 'scandals' over the dishonesty of Presidents.

A President is our main representative to foreign nations, they lead our military and must interact with world leaders often, in many cases perhaps even being in the same room as the leader of a nation they're running a secret military operation in at that very moment, would you have them be honest with that leader and inform them that we're conducting military operations within their nation without their knowledge and approval for the sake of national and international security?

It is a vital necessity on the President's part to be almost anything but honest in many situations. Sorry, but I don't feel like telling the Chinese leadership that we think their wife could use to lose a few pounds will help us avoid a war with them and telling the Russians we're running a military operation on their soil to intercept an illegal nuclear arms trade will probably prove to hold consequences for us and jeopardize that mission, certainly endanger the lives of the soldiers we sent on it.
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stealthyninja588 is not online. stealthyninja588
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16 Feb 2013 02:33 PM
"It's frankly quite sad and just sick what you're doing, sorry that reality doesn't line up with your insane delusions but don't try to take it out on everyone else, go watch/read some credible, non-partisan, minimally biased news/books and get caught up with the real world instead."

Look who is talking. How about you don't just get caught up with the real world, but pay attention to it too.
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Varese is not online. Varese
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16 Feb 2013 02:34 PM
Are you an idiot Texar?
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Varese is not online. Varese
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16 Feb 2013 02:35 PM
XC6 complains about dishonesty and you go on a huge rant about how it's good that a president is dishonest because you have to lie about how fat the leader of China's wife is or something?
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Texar is not online. Texar
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16 Feb 2013 02:37 PM
"Look who is talking. How about you don't just get caught up with the real world, but pay attention to it too."

That's not a response...


"Are you an idiot Texar?"

In other words you have no response and nothing further to argue and, as such, are desperately hoping that forsaking the illusion of the high ground will somehow help your argument thus far... Shockingly, it will not.
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Texar is not online. Texar
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16 Feb 2013 02:40 PM
"XC6 complains about dishonesty and you go on a huge rant about how it's good that a president is dishonest because you have to lie about how fat the leader of China's wife is or something?"

The point was merely to be made that honesty on anything from something minor such as your opinion on a leader or leader's spouse's appearance to something major such as an illegal military operation on foreign soil can be devastating to the US and it's interests.

Honesty is not always the best choice, despite any idealistic views we may hold on the matter.
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Varese is not online. Varese
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16 Feb 2013 02:55 PM
You're trying to defend dishonesty on something completely basic like political stances by going on a huge rant about nothing. Your post was a huge strawman, please leave.
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