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ironman0001 is not online. ironman0001
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13 Feb 2013 04:47 PM
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par4gonnov4 is not online. par4gonnov4
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13 Feb 2013 05:04 PM
CoD changes guns every once in a while.
Story is almost always the same, picks up from a time after the last thing happened.
Huds change sometimes.
So yes, CoD changes, but the changes are so small that really, the thing that never changes is the most important thing; the gameplay.

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link200284 is not online. link200284
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13 Feb 2013 05:14 PM
But that's football, Iron, it's kind of hard to change.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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13 Feb 2013 05:14 PM
Yes, but here's my problem, Madden isn't a major hyped up pro mlg game that all the kiddies play, Call of duty is.
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monty155 is not online. monty155
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13 Feb 2013 05:18 PM
madden is a football game

what do you expect them to change, exactly?
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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13 Feb 2013 05:23 PM
look a how different mario strikerss is from acctual soccer/football

Madden is a simulation game, Mario Strikers is not, they have more room to innovate and add creative new ideas, Madden is forced to stick with real life physics and plays.
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mastroblox is not online. mastroblox
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13 Feb 2013 05:27 PM
Of course Madden wont change, it's suppose to stay in a realistic football way for everyone. Don't think CoD is a superior game, it's a average war game.

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CODISTHEBESTGAMEEVER is not online. CODISTHEBESTGAMEEVER
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13 Feb 2013 05:32 PM
COD CHANGES EVERYTHING EVERY YEAR
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ford08105 is not online. ford08105
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13 Feb 2013 05:34 PM
Take a look at Madden


I have 2011 and 2013 And they are the exact same except for a different main menu


Heck, Even the animation of the characters are the same! They act the same!


CoD is no different FROM Madden
There's not much of ANY innovation between either one of them
Before you try to make CoD look good with a series no better, try harder
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ford08105 is not online. ford08105
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13 Feb 2013 05:36 PM
And at least EA can make a good game every now and then, unlike Activision. Activision USED to make good games.
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thomasfan6 is not online. thomasfan6
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13 Feb 2013 06:00 PM
Saying a Football simulation game (Madden in this case) never changes is like saying all oranges taste the same.

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LaCoffeeMan is not online. LaCoffeeMan
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13 Feb 2013 06:07 PM
First person shooters have are just stale now to me.

Call of duty should wait 2-3 years before they come out with a new game. Instead they release a new one every year with the smallest changes. Yet everyone buys them because they want the newest one, and they want to play there friends online.

When COD has been using same graphics engine since the first MWF.

Battlefield and Halo take time to upgrade there game. For call of duty, its all money.
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ironman0001 is not online. ironman0001
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ford08105 is not online. ford08105
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13 Feb 2013 06:17 PM
No, people buy newer Iphones but they're unaware of the fact barely anything changed.
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Aleks21 is not online. Aleks21
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13 Feb 2013 06:18 PM
Madden/other sport games can not innovate as it would change the sport.
Call of Duty has option to innovate but do not because they like their mountain of cash. Call of Duty not innovating will have other fps trying to get a share of the cash.
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mastroblox is not online. mastroblox
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13 Feb 2013 06:20 PM
Just because it was slightly improved doesn't make it the best, real games at least take 2-3 years to make with improvements and listening to there fans, Treyarch or Infinity Ward doesn't do any of this. Modern Warfare 2 was the last good one before CoD went to hell. It's like you are saying "The new ones are always the best"

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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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13 Feb 2013 09:42 PM
I don't like Madden either. Heck, I dislike it MORE than CoD.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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13 Feb 2013 11:40 PM
you're right, madden is even worse than cod when it comes to innovation

so is pokemon
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keydo is not online. keydo
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13 Feb 2013 11:50 PM
The reason i dident get halo 4 unstead of it is because halo doesent have a long enough campaign. Like in halo 2, the campaign was like 6 levels long: Same with battlefield bad company but those levels took like an hour-2 hours- 3 hours to beat.
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mamaguy is not online. mamaguy
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13 Feb 2013 11:50 PM
Actually, the AI in madden is rewritten with every game, so that's about 12-36 hours total based on # of people and they remake all the player stats
They also make new AI for each player, so its like 1200-2400 hours of work based on how many players there are
Im also guessing they don't put the top programmers on it so that's why it'd take so long.
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Kingempoleon is not online. Kingempoleon
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14 Feb 2013 12:29 AM
I heard about the Madden controversy, many of the fans got mad at EA because, as you said, everything was the same except for the main menu.
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