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| 05 Feb 2013 09:38 PM |
Sleet Clan (SC) is one of the top dominant clans of the ROBLOX; and with its increase of members, it is soon to reach the front page of ROBLOX groups. SC has been undergoing several changes and each change is for the best of the clan. Recently as I joined SC, I have seen that the departments of SC have not been functioning as they should be.
I have taken it upon myself to reform the entire department system of SC, and to make sure it functions vigorously. The current department system of SC is very well organized in written form, though I have yet to see it actually operating. There have been a recent purge and in which I believe could have retired several ministers of the departments from their jobs. Not only that, our departments at SC do not serve a real purpose other than a name.
This new reform of the departments of SC will not only adjust the departments of SC, but also have them thoroughly adapted to the clan. These departments will become the source of knowledge for the clan; taking SC into becoming an apprehensive clan.
BE AWARE, these changes are not official and only are idealized. There are no confirmed positions for the ministers of the departments.
[SC: Department Reform] [Directorship // All]
The new department system will follow on suit like most departments in the clan world today. The department system will come to two major, general departments; Internal Affairs and Foreign Affairs. These departments are led by one or two [SO] ranked members. Under the General Departments, there are several Sub-Departments. These Sub-Departments are run by ranks pertaining in [HR]. The most ethical rank to run the Sub-Departments will be the Centurion rank. Below is complete details on the two major departments and their sub-departments.
DEPARTMENT OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS
[Preliminary Information:] The Department of Internal Affairs is firmly run by one of the SO ranks of SC. Though it is not chosen who will run the department, it is well known that the HR must be one completely aware of ongoing relationships within the clan. The Department of Internal affairs handles justice and conflict resolving of lower ranks within SC, training and member development and member/community affairs.
[Department Minister(s)]: N/A
[Sub Departments of Internal Affairs:]
|Department of Trainings|: N/A |Position Description|: Handles training within SC, this specific council is expected to form training reports of multiple trainings to determine which areas SC needs to improve on. This council is expected to report this scouted information to commanding officers for review and implementation into the training system. The head of training dictates and decides which exercises are needed with consult to the upper command. This department is required to be extremely active within trainings. The department must assure all members are well trained and well disciplined for optimal performance in conflicts and to upkeep and manage training guidelines and training bases so they are of most helpfulness to Sleet Clan members.
|Reports directly to|: Internal Affairs
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|Department of Civil Affairs |: N/A |Position Description|: This department manages civilian affairs, handling the concerns and suggestions of the members and assuring the community and family values of SC stay intact. It also handles lore and the history of SC, assuring the history of SC is never lost, and the lore lives on through education and recording. This council is expected to interact with SC members to see which areas they wish to improve in SC, and which areas the members would prefer changed.
|Reports directly to|: Internal Affairs
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|Department of Innovation|: N/A |Position Description|: The Department of Innovation works to progress SC both with ideas and reformations. The department manages all major systems, reformations and infrastructural changes in SC. This department is expected to be intelligent, and full of creativity and ideas that can progress and move SC in the right direction.
|Reports directly to|: Internal Affairs
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|Department of Technology|: N/A |Position Description|: This department manages technology and the progression of SC via development, building and scripting. They handle all major projects within SC alongside others willing and able to help, and assure SC progresses and the members are satisfied with this work. The department works closely with other developers within SC to plan projects and future technological advances - this is a major innovative position substantiated on creativity and progress.
|Reports directly to|: Internal Affairs
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|Department of Division Affairs|: N/A |Position Description|: This department handles and manages all current divisions of SC, assures their operations are active and beneficial to SC as a whole and reforms them if necessary. This department also handles and dictates new divisions of SC, and assures the benefit to SC via its divisional format.
|Reports directly to|: Internal Affairs
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DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS
[Preliminary Information:] The Department of Foreign affairs handles warfare/espionage outside of SC, diplomacy outside of SC and public relations outside of SC. This department works on the exterior of SC to keep SC a notorious and accepted clan within the clan world.
[Department Minister(s)]: N/A
[Sub Departments of Foreign Affairs:]
|Department of Warfare|: N/A |Position Description|: Handles wartime operations, both offensive and defensive in nature. This department runs all major war affairs for SC, handles rallying, raiding, victory counting and assures SC victory in its war endeavors. This department works closely with the Supreme General of SC, to assure success in these conflicts. This department must be extremely active in the battlefield and make it native to oneself.
|Reports directly to|: Foreign Affairs
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|Department of Homeland Security|: N/A |Position Description|: Works to protect SC from possible outside threats of homeland security, works in defensive maneuvers during wartime situations - manages the interior security of SC. Handles espionage and operations of the like. The department handles all possible security threats and spy threats within SC, and assures that SC is safe from admin attacking, or intrusion of its ranks. This department also assures SC is safe on its defensive home grounds, which means it is required for this department to closely with the Department of Warfare on all defense operations.
|Reports directly to|: Foreign Affairs
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|Department of Diplomacy|: N/A |Position Description|: Handles all major diplomatic operations within SC in conjunction with his/her commanding officers. This department is expected to coordinate defensive back-up from SC to allies, to work to satisfy allies while building mutually beneficial relationships and to build new and progressive alliances from SC to foreign clans. The department assures SC maintains a positive image and positive relations with its allies, and keenly attains that SC mutually benefits from its allies so that SC and its allies may prosper.
|Reports directly to|: Foreign Affairs
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|Department of Public Relations|: N/A |Position Description|: This department works in conjunction with the entire department to manage the image of SC with other organizations. They manage propaganda and media and make official addresses to the public following minor/moderate occurrences. This department also works directly with the Department of Internal Affairs to ensure all addresses are official and proper. In addition, this department manages all SC conduct and behavior on the forums to assure for a positive image.
|Reports directly to|: Foreign Affairs
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|Department of Recruitment|: N/A |Position Description|: This department of SC is expected to manage recruitment projects, innovate new ways to bring members into SC and to work closely with the corresponding department to carry out these projects. This department also works with the branch of public relations to assure a positive image and improved recruitment in both quantity and quality.
|Reports directly to|: Foreign Affairs
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COUNCIL OF JUSTICE
[Preliminary Information:] This council handles all low rank conflicts and carries out justice and conflict resolution within SC - the Council of Justice should consult the upper command protocol for carrying out conflict resolution before attempting to do so, and always consult their commanding officer should it be a major or pressing conflict. This Council must be active and in tune with member affairs and conflict and must do a thorough job investigating all conflicts. The reason for why this is a council of multiple members and not just on person, is to ensure that all juridical decisions that are carried out are not dependent on one person. This council must include more than two people and ensure that the ones in the council are COMPLETELY UNBIASED.
[Council Members]: N/A
[CONCLUSION:]
This department system is for the beneficial future of SC. Previous department systems have proved inequitable and unreliable at some points. This department system uses popular department depiction to ensure complete functionality within SC. The main point in reforming the department system is so that SC is able to operate all aspects of the clan. It also ensures that the clan does not fall apart on sections of the clan simply due to inactivity. Hopefully this is a system which can be fully implemented into SC and be functioning in the upcoming weeks.
Thanks, ROBLOXHAMTAH, SC HR Centurion
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| 05 Feb 2013 09:39 PM |
| @Prag, handing out free ranks doesn't help high rank inactivity. |
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| 05 Feb 2013 09:42 PM |
@Daniel
Inactivity is due to the people who are HRs. We have recently had a HR Purge in which we hope took care of all the inactive HRs. SC is quickly recovering, and I will make sure it recovers in an ethical way. |
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| 05 Feb 2013 09:43 PM |
"Inactivity is due to the people who are HRs"
Yeah, people like you from other clans that get free high ranks are usually the problem. |
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| 05 Feb 2013 09:47 PM |
@Daniel
The problem isn't that I got a "free high rank". The problem is that the HRs SC previously had were inactive and thus harmful to SC.
Pragmatic and his commanding officers are working together on recruiting active and loyal HRs for SC. You cannot always just get HR by going through each and every rank. Sometimes if you have a strong public image, offers as such come by quite easily. |
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| 05 Feb 2013 09:49 PM |
| I haven't seen one person that has been hired to help SC from another clan actually do something in a while. |
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| 05 Feb 2013 09:51 PM |
| I want to make sure, this is a heavily MODIFIED reform. The original reform is by Meowmixxed. |
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Kman2962
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| 05 Feb 2013 10:31 PM |
| I would love to see this happen. Though, I've seen other clans do this and it didn't work well. |
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Scorchio
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| 06 Feb 2013 07:11 AM |
I agree with Daniel to some extent. Making others work really hard and have those that get free ranks aren't good for activity. Also, I'm not sure if SC is the kind of clan for super organization. It DID work in RCP (Basically SC when Meow took over the old SC), but it really is a level of how much work everyone is to put in. Writing this stuff by yourself is not a good solution either; LR and MR inputs should ALSO be put in, because they know what is REALLY going on. The LR and MR have different perspectives which reforming really won't help unless you put their thoughts into consideration.
-Scorchio, Senior Centurion & Ex 4iC of Sleet Clan |
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Scorchio
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| 06 Feb 2013 07:25 AM |
(An example is Twiddly making that holo base. Yeah, it was good. But there are others that deserve that rank as well, such as ajayy and mrb. Why should twiddly get to pass all those tests while those active in SC 24/7 have to go over that again?)
Also, instead of recruiting people for these jobs, I think we should use who we have and make them be active. It has worked before. OwneD1991 for example: Prag molded and helped him become great. Myself as well. And when these members come out of nowhere doing these jobs they could have done, it drives them to be inactive. It is simple logic. The more they help, they expect a bit of recognition in return, or at least not to be stepped over. When I listen to someone's issues, I try not to judge. But when a random person attempts to reform a clan where they do not even go to a training once in a while, it will be out of hand. If you want it to adapt to Sleet Clan, shouldn't you know what Sleet Clan needs adapted to? Cr4y's reforms where indeed a good start, but if we screw up after his reform with something less thought out, it will most likely put is in another dark age. Also, there is no one to hear LR,MR, and lower HR ideas that they have. I've had tons through my experience here at SC, yet no one cared to listen, because they were "busy". I cannot download x/fire, either, as others cannot as well.
There is another issue with this type of system. Some people do well in about everything, but never exceed at one type of point. There is no rank for these types of people. In fact, I'd say SC is filled with them. which is why I believe partially why this hasn't worked in the past. Maybe, we could have Heads and they can hire assistants. |
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Scorchio
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| 06 Feb 2013 07:36 AM |
| Oh, and about your being inactive and harmful to SC: If this is indeed what is causing it, what would make those that are making the other trusted HRs inactive? What is worse than harmful? And, I would know that some members are fed up because they've begged me to do something, but I wasn't sure what to do. |
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| 06 Feb 2013 07:38 AM |
Im in love with scorchio's speeches and convincing long stories :) They convince me, and they are clearly true. |
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| 06 Feb 2013 07:40 AM |
| Scorchio is right BTW I am in SC for 2 and half years and nobody listens to my ideas People that I never saw in training become HR.How? Free ranks is not the point in the last couple weeks I reached Guardian.Took me 2 years Why.becuase most HR just pick THE BEST SC not respectful, not loyal For exaple Cod4sniper He came and left and came and left whats up with SC i was only inactive for 2 days SC has changed indeed. |
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SeanyBiy
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| 06 Feb 2013 07:46 AM |
@Scorchio, I agree with you one-hundred percent. Particularly "If you want it to adapt to Sleet Clan, shouldn't you know what Sleet Clan needs adapted to?". I, myself, am a new HR within Sleet Clan, and I do see it as unfair that I get this for almost nothing while others spend so long working their way up. I've had the same feeling in other clans as these HRs here in SC could feel, but in all honesty I don't mind if somebody gets a free HR so long as one condition comes into the equation; that the new HR who got that position so easily when others had to work for it actually recognizes this and instead of sitting idly-by, they/he/she actually DOES something, and something useful at that. They recognize this and DON'T take advantage of it, but help the clan. I plan on becoming very dedicated to SC, and very hard working within it, and through this maybe people will be able to say that I do deserve my rank, not yet, but in the future. And until that day, I'll be here as somebody who got a "free-rank", but I'll be here to serve the people and the clan and to earn my HR and my place within SC's heart.
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| 06 Feb 2013 08:00 AM |
| Seany,your the owner of BWL. The point is the mural of that post you just said is what I am inferring to Free rank?Whats up with that.In my life time I was not in a group more than 5 months I am in this group for 2 years.I Love SC but my goal was to make it to Grand but look at me I bet people think I am useless But I own to groups Team Roblox [older than SC] and RSO Roblox Special Operation. @Seany but what if you had to try to reach HR?Would you like it?Coming to all the training's?Try not to get ranked down.Every single day. Good day. |
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Auzric
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| 06 Feb 2013 08:23 AM |
| Very good idea sir, if it does become offical i'm sure it will bring a major spike in activity in SC. |
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| 06 Feb 2013 08:33 AM |
@Scorchio That's very true now that I think about it, because if its just HR's giving the ideas LR's and MR's might have a even better idea and could make SC a better place. But I too do agree with the fourm as well it has hat aspect of making SC more organized not just a bunch of people recruiting and building and when there done someone says "Oh its not needed" So all there hard work goes down the drain. If there were like some kind of "part time" job for MR's to do with the new recruits or something that gives the experenced members a job in the community of SC and then the line keeps chaning LR>MR jobs>HR jobs and etc until they retire from SC.
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SeanyBiy
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| 06 Feb 2013 09:21 AM |
@RobloxShark, I don't own BWI anymore, I retired so that I could have more time to do other things, SC will be one of them. Anyway, as for ranking up bothering me? No, it wouldn't. I would happily be demoted right now and forced to rank back up, but that's just a waste of time since I'm here already. Being an HR isn't just a reward, it's also a job. If I had to work my way back up I'd just be wasting time that I could be using to help the clan even more. @Mysterio, I see where you're coming from and I'll try and create something like that with the idea of fun in mind very soon and then I'll see what you and the members think about. Thank you for your idea! |
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