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Re: [[FEAR]] Ranking - {Managment & Organization] Proposal

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fliboys is not online. fliboys
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04 Feb 2013 02:50 PM
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Currently, the lower ranks of REC-LET have no real purpose or distinction. Due to a lack of information regarding the requirments, these ranks are randomly awarded to often undeserving members at trainings.

The upper ranks MAJOR - WTO have an equal amount of un-provided information.

With that in mind, I put out this proposal/summary.
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The issue when dealing with the lower ranks is simplicity; in order to retain new members, the the basic ideas of advancment must be presented in an understandable and fun way. This will drive member activity forward, and provide a viable means of keeping new members engaged.

Thus, the ranks have to be divided into tiers, (catagories).
T1 = REC-SPC [[LEARNING]] |

T2 = SGT-CPT [[ADVANCING]] (e.g. Furthing improving on physical skills learned in T1.)
CPT = the pinnacle of the Advancing phase.

T3 = MAJ-OFF [[LEADING/TEACHING]]
T4 = HRs. Organization. Mhm.


>Recruits are immideantly presented with a series of easy to understand 'quests'. Recruits could be directed towards a single player training facility, with basic obstacle courses and GUI's depicting basic rules and methods. This idea has been demonstrated with success in large scale clans, such as RAT.

> PVT, CPL and the majority of SPC need to be cleared out. Hands down. No dispute. If we want to USE those ranks, we need to start over. They could then be used as ranks earned in training. (e.g. Physical skills such as Sword Jumping)

> SGT - LET would then become transition ranks. People in these ranks would be transitioning from LEARNING physicall skills, to ADVANCING in skill, and LEARNING leadership.

> CPT becomes the pinnacle of the LEARNING tier. They should KNOW all the physical skills we want them to know. They should be LEARNING leadership.

> Major - Officer. Not really the point of this thread, but the difference between Major/Officer would be LEADERSHIP. Majors are officers in training, we want them to be able to be mature when in charge of a group.

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>I'd like officers to KNOW why they are officers. If it's co-leading a division, hosting trainings or whatever.

Purpose = Activity.

Give them a purpose, and they'll provide the activity. I'd introduce a Certified trainer program. Officer interested in hosting trainings demonstrate how they do it, and majors interested in learning or co-hosting are inspected as well.

In other words, GIVE EACH RANK A PURPOSE, AND EACH RANK WILL RETURN THE FAVOR IN ACTIVITY. Profound.



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I don't want a complete demotion of everybody, (though in a perfect world that would be ideal) since that would create a nightmarish hell for the HRs. But we need to change something. It's been done before, and it's never worked.
Why?

Because nobody has ever followed through with a workable plan AFTER the reform. If we could pull this off, we'd really never need to do another TOTALL DEMOTION OF EVERYBODY again.

Ever.

We'd be setting FEAR up to run smoothly for years to come.

Seriously.
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This is kinda a quick overview for what I THINK should be done. Obviously, it would require tons of HR participation and agreement.

This should be discussed.

PM me if you disagree or have questions. I'm open, and everybody knows I don't freak out and quit when people disagree with me...

~Fli

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InfernoBWFCFan1 is not online. InfernoBWFCFan1
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04 Feb 2013 02:51 PM
Support...
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strongyoshimaster is not online. strongyoshimaster
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04 Feb 2013 02:56 PM
I am a LET, that means that at trainings I should be tought LEADERSHIP skills, correct? I want to lead us to victory one day and I have not been tought much on leadership skills.
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Builderperson911 is not online. Builderperson911
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04 Feb 2013 02:56 PM
Support.

"A word to the wise ain't necessary - it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
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jaybay1147 is not online. jaybay1147
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04 Feb 2013 02:58 PM
Been Off since June...this could help. c:
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fireflame09225 is not online. fireflame09225
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04 Feb 2013 02:59 PM
You have my full support. We need to bring this up to SONIC at FEAR Meeting, because we defiantly need something like this, and it should boost LR activity.

We also should send LRs on "quests" more often, so they get more REAL WORLD experience.
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fliboys is not online. fliboys
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04 Feb 2013 03:00 PM
Moar HR opinons.

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KB135246 is not online. KB135246
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04 Feb 2013 03:03 PM
Agree...
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ShiZhang is not online. ShiZhang
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04 Feb 2013 03:03 PM
I was thinking about this on our last AA. I support.
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robloxboop03 is not online. robloxboop03
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04 Feb 2013 03:07 PM
Support
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XUSX is not online. XUSX
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04 Feb 2013 03:09 PM
Agree.
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mnlky6 is not online. mnlky6
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04 Feb 2013 03:10 PM
Acknowledged, Nicely presented :P

-Mnlky
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FerrariLambo is not online. FerrariLambo
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04 Feb 2013 03:12 PM
Support, so many nice ideas and opinions presented today. Such a jolly day.
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KingEpic5 is not online. KingEpic5
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04 Feb 2013 03:13 PM
tl;dr

Sacred toaster was here.
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xSpider2458x is not online. xSpider2458x
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04 Feb 2013 03:13 PM
This is completely supported by me. I totally agree with this. It's true, all of it.
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kzamo123 is not online. kzamo123
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04 Feb 2013 03:16 PM
I like how you do away with WTO altogether. <3
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IcedDeath is online. IcedDeath
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04 Feb 2013 03:17 PM
Supported. But the demotion of all LR's will cause them to leave the group in a rage after they got promoted.
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cherrybomb117 is not online. cherrybomb117
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04 Feb 2013 03:18 PM
I support this I like the idea of being able to teach again.
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smorg30 is not online. smorg30
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04 Feb 2013 03:19 PM
Support.
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fliboys is not online. fliboys
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04 Feb 2013 03:21 PM
> WTO is not going away.
> Why am I >ing this... ho hum.

> The LRs getting demoted would be so inactive they'd never even know what hit them.

Trust me.

~Fli
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beloxy is not online. beloxy
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04 Feb 2013 03:21 PM
Supported. I would be able to do NOTHING without FS. It's the only thing that I can really do in leadership. I have no idea what to do as a plain Officer... Like I said in slasher's post: This thread is nothing without an HR actually taking the first steps. Dozens of these threads have been put out, but so far, none have done anything. Fli, fire, slasher, ShiZhang, etc., are you ready to take the first step?
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nacawesome is not online. nacawesome
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04 Feb 2013 03:26 PM
I second this. Now HRs can't ignore people who actually deserve promotions. And it actually gives MAJs and OFFs stuff to do. I mean, patrolling with no raiders is stupid of MAJs and OFFs, because the only reason people do it is to get noticed by a HR. And it's getting to the point were is it pointless to go to a training - you've done it a thousand times if you're a MAJ+.

~ Nac
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WhatTheThuck is not online. WhatTheThuck
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04 Feb 2013 03:29 PM
may I have my promo i earned in training couple days ago was never given it
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diuto717 is not online. diuto717
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04 Feb 2013 03:29 PM
Agreed. - Officer of F.E.A.R. Diuto717
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diuto717 is not online. diuto717
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04 Feb 2013 03:30 PM
WhatTheThuck, work on your grammar, then you'll get the promotion.
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