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Re: UAF; An Era Returned

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DiscoHeaven is not online. DiscoHeaven
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31 Jan 2013 08:26 PM
The following is a private chat between False and I, released with his permission, to assist UAF members in understanding the motivation behind political changes that will be occurring soon-ish within the Urban Assault Forces.

[20:32] John: Rodger and I keep reminiscing about my first era, when he, bbal, shadowsword, stephen, and I made up the governing hierarchy of UAF.


[20:35] John: We had some of the best times, oh man it was great.

[20:35] John: Back when no one ridiculed us, and in the eyes of the C&G community we could do no wrong, because to tell us that we were would be reputational death; the majority simply wouldn't agree.

[20:36] John: Oh man, it was so good being able to lead UAF, make a mistake, but then work out the mistake without being yelled at every few minutes.

[20:37] John: Our current high ranks were some of the most dedicated members, Tbarpo being Rodger's apprentice after Rodger was Shadow's apprentice, it was great.

[20:38] FalseWarrior000: Agreed. Where did those times go? :(

[20:39] John: I got depressed, gave it to Bbal who gave it to Shadow who harmed our reputation before throwing it back to me, who only halfway caught it like a bad pitch a father throws to his son when playing Catch in the backyard, I will admit.

[20:40] John: Along the way some of our best members hit the road, though others appeared to lessen the burden of not having prominent members, that didn't make them replacements.

[20:42] John: There's no way to return UAF to its exact state, where the high ranks were just as friendly with the members as they were with each other, or where the members universally respected each decision the high ranks made and allowed them second and third chances when something went wrong.

[20:42] John: That's just because we're dealing with different people under a different set of rules with a different cast of high ranks under entirely different clan world circumstances.

[20:43] John: Trying to gain back that feeling of general peace and equality without having to rigidly enforce it via a Constitution and a Codex is a challenge, when everyone is so used to the way things are now.

[20:44] FalseWarrior000: Aye. And even then, those two were implemented because such a feeling had already begun the process of degeneration at that time.

[20:45] John: Every decision was made on the fly in a high rank only chatroom, anyone who wasn't online didn't have a say (myself included), and there were no departments; we were a fly by night clan and it worked just fine because that's what the high ranks were used to.

[20:46] John: There was absolutely nothing complicated about UAF, despite living in a seemingly dismal environment, we were a fairly utopian group aside from the occasional problem that popped up here and there.

[20:48] John: We relied on the cumulative strength of everyone as an individual to give us the power we had in the clan world, rather than having certain high ranks who are fairly good at something only do that one thing.

[20:49] John: Everyone did every job because no job was too hard for them to handle, and if it was, they weren't too prideful to ask someone else for assistance, but never did they feel required to ask myself or a Legislature what they should do.

[20:49] John: I miss the generation we had of free thinkers, see-and-doers, the ones who jumped in and got things done however they wanted because they knew that I would always have their back so long as they didn't harm the clan.

[20:50] FalseWarrior000: (I want that generation back. qq)

[20:51] John: Then I suppose we'll just have to change this one a little bit, hm?

[20:51] John: There's not a single member incapable of functioning with the independence I mentioned before; I trust the members we have to be able to handle freedom and responsibility well enough.

[20:52] John: It's going to be different, but it's a good different.



Removal of the Constitution and Codex later on does not mean removal of rights or rules, I assure you; we're a clan of the people, and we still will be.

Just hang tight and relax a while, friends, I'll detail our return to a more loose system later on when it's actually implemented.

[UAFCOM] ~DH~
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xXxMostDopexXx is not online. xXxMostDopexXx
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31 Jan 2013 08:27 PM
good luck
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Killer6199 is not online. Killer6199
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31 Jan 2013 08:27 PM
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Strieken is not online. Strieken
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31 Jan 2013 08:27 PM
HI MOOJL
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Pragmatic is not online. Pragmatic
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31 Jan 2013 08:28 PM
If you wanna do that,
do not declare war on old friends.
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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31 Jan 2013 08:28 PM
Bbal lost a war to like 2-3 clans and then when you got it back it died because you're a bad leader
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Killer6199 is not online. Killer6199
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31 Jan 2013 08:28 PM
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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31 Jan 2013 08:28 PM
It also went downhill after you allied TGI and attacked RAA only to get a retaliation.

Castellian is bad news and he killed your clan.
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PoketSniperOps is not online. PoketSniperOps
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31 Jan 2013 08:28 PM
I remember BB9 and when I was an Officer, the good ole days
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Strieken is not online. Strieken
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31 Jan 2013 08:29 PM
@sasuke

> you're a bad leader

Not much room to talk there, friend.

RAA isn't even active enough to hold trainings with over 10-14 people.
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PappyJR99 is not online. PappyJR99
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31 Jan 2013 08:29 PM
I can help UAF again like I did back then, if you want it to rise back to what it use to be, instead of kind of a dead super clan.

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Pragmatic is not online. Pragmatic
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31 Jan 2013 08:29 PM
@sasuke
It was better as a RAT puppet, to be honest...
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PoketSniperOps is not online. PoketSniperOps
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31 Jan 2013 08:30 PM
@Sasuke

Bad leader? Takes one to know one
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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31 Jan 2013 08:30 PM
Not much room to talk there, friend.

RAA isn't even active enough to hold trainings with over 10-14 people.
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Well I haven't really done anything with RAA and I intentionally killed it. So ya, good work.
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Pragmatic is not online. Pragmatic
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31 Jan 2013 08:30 PM
"Takes one to know one"
Well, I don't see how THAT made sense. >.>

Hi.
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Strieken is not online. Strieken
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31 Jan 2013 08:30 PM
Also, sasuke

> Castellian is bad news and he killed your clan.

Yes, that's definitely what happened

Seriously. You know nothing about what goes on in UAF/TGI, and the diplomacy between the two.

You should go do something productive, like get RAA back in order.

Maybe then, when you have a ​>>GOOD<< reputation, you can come back and start insulting people for being 'bad leaders'.
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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31 Jan 2013 08:31 PM
Bad leader? Takes one to know one
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I know. I'm a horrible leader. :((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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31 Jan 2013 08:32 PM
Prag, he's trying to call me a hypocrite even though I built RAA from the ground up and then let it die for a fresh start.

Unlike Disco who received a clan with 20,000 members and somehow managed to lose members.
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Strieken is not online. Strieken
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31 Jan 2013 08:32 PM
> I intentionally killed it.

That's the crappiest excuse I've heard in a while.

Congrats.
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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31 Jan 2013 08:32 PM
Okay Strieken.


Protip: Don't argue with TGI members
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Indistinct is not online. Indistinct
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31 Jan 2013 08:32 PM
we await vydrak.

awaiting


unless im late
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pepi12 is not online. pepi12
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31 Jan 2013 08:32 PM
and I wouldn't be so sure that you will stand
that long here..




-[P12]
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squidboi2 is not online. squidboi2
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31 Jan 2013 08:33 PM
You have to move on, dog.

There's no way to repeat the past.
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Strieken is not online. Strieken
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31 Jan 2013 08:33 PM
> Protip: Don't argue with TGI members

Yes, we tend to be an intelligent bunch.

We also enjoy making idiots look like bigger idiots.

;)
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Zuesstormgod88 is not online. Zuesstormgod88
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31 Jan 2013 08:34 PM
i thought you were giving to MOOJL
lol
im dumb as you can tell

k
bai
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