orthis
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:23 PM |
Hi all, Orthis here
I have unlocked the possibility of a truly democratic clan - A Parliamentry Government under a Constitutional Monarchy.
It is a simple concept, a similar system of government to what the UK has.
First of all there will be a 'figure head' similar to a monarch, they will act as an overseer and will have no real role in running the clan other than promoting the elected leader.
This figure head would have to be someone who has no real ambition to lead a clan.
The leader of the clan will be democraticly elected every 6 months, he will have all the powers needed to lead the clan - apart from the power to remove members - this will enable him to choose who he wants as his SiC, head of millitary etc. But the people with high amounts of votes will be entitled to a HR. This will also enable people to oppose the leader and his decisions without being silenced and if he is disliked, a vote of no confidence can be called to remove him from office.
The leader will still have the ability to declare war, make peace, make alliances, make reforms etc.
The leader will however have to deal with opposition and any major decisions would require a vote.
This is only a basic idea so I would like some thoughts and if any big clans would like to adopt this feel free.
The only way this can really happen is in an already large clan, major reforms would obviously have to be made, and an impartial figure head chosen.
Their are obvious flaws in the idea, mainly concerning the figure head.
Thoughts/Ideas/People who want to adopt this.
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ALMEC
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:24 PM |
NO. At least not in a SuperClan..... http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=88087470
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orthis
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:25 PM |
@ ALMEC
The theory can be applied to smaller clans.
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Delta1001
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:26 PM |
A truly good thread by you- Is it possible?
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ALMEC
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:26 PM |
| It can but not as much......Superclans are too busy with wars to understand how to vote for thingsand the leaders have way too much power in desicions.. |
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orthis
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:27 PM |
Another thing I forgot to mention is that it would give NBC members a chance to lead a clan. :)
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ALMEC
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:28 PM |
| yes it is I THE MASTER!!!!!11 |
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:28 PM |
| This will take ages of planning and practice. Plus. It will be very hard and complicated as ROBLOX clan system does not really allow the flexibility for democracies in clans. |
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grimy12
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:28 PM |
Just not possible on ROBLOX, end of story. Monarchs all the way.
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:29 PM |
| One thing that could go wrong in elections- people PMing every random LR to vote for them (I've seen it work in elections before).. |
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ALMEC
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:29 PM |
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=88087470
Please read and post on it... |
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orthis
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:31 PM |
I understand the great undertaking this is - but at the end of the day it can work, you just need committed people to become the figure head and from there it is smooth sailing.
And about the elections thing - thats democracy for you :)
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:36 PM |
| A democracy can only be as flawless as the people who comprise it. |
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orthis
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:37 PM |
Any clan leaders who have an opinion?
(Yes, I realise they are probably not on the forums)
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:39 PM |
| A democracy can only be as strong as the people who comprise it.* |
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orthis
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:41 PM |
@Delta
Thats why the right people are needed :)
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:42 PM |
| Dictatorship is the way to go. |
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:43 PM |
Well... the latest democratic clan was USMO (United States Military Orgainization) and it kinda toppled over when the election happened, the Vice President actually 'Hacked' the President and exiled everyone in USMO, and the Vice President started another USMO like group, probably to behold the same-fate. There's multiple others, the best idea is to have the CiC to be the 2nd highest rank, and like a 'Overlord' to do the change-of-power this has been spotted by TheFoundingFather's USA. |
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orthis
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:44 PM |
@DERP, That is what I am suggesting here.
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:44 PM |
| I used to be a democacy man in UCR, Then i took a ROBLOXTHA meeting to the knee. |
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:45 PM |
| You're missing a major part. What if the leader is inactive, power hungry, or just plain irresponsible? You'd need some sort of judicial branch, that can eject the leader at any time. |
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orthis
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| 30 Jan 2013 02:47 PM |
UCR is far from a democracy, it is a dictatorship dressed in a democratic coat.
Still thinks its amazing...
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