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Re: The forum : A major update ?

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velibor is not online. velibor
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26 Jan 2013 07:00 PM
Content of this thread:
0. Introduction
1. Styling the ROBLOX forum
2. BB code / WWYISG editor
3. Code tags
4. Quote tags
5. Rating system
6. Using ROBLOX decals in our post
7. The top poster system, and more of that.
8. The edit button
9. A abilty to close a thread as OP on certain forums
10. A word of the author.


Author note :
This thread is meant for all the ROBLOXians and I would love to hear your feedback on this item. Please keep it on topic, then we will shape the idea to the community instead of only mine thoughts.
English is my native language.


0. Introduction
Dear ROBLOX and Robloxians,

In the last couple of years we saw that you changed a lot on the ROBLOX website, something that we admire.
You changed the Catalog, added new pages. It was a pleasure to see this.

Roblox has a full team of web engineers. But they never changed a thing about the forum. Only added a few categories here and renaming a general forum. I think that is quite odd.

The forum is the main heart of the community on ROBLOX. You can get your statistics and see that there a lot of Forum post made every single day.

I (as Scripter) can be found at Scripter helpers and the support threads. Just because I like to help other users out, and give them a hand if possible. Other users will go to Roblox related talk or just laugh with each other at a other forum. But we all know that the Forum hasn't been changed since 2004 - 2006. The forum software that you are using is not up to date anymore, and is asking for a major update

In the next paragraphs I will explain each Idea and why I think it is something that we as community wish.

1. Styling the ROBLOX forum to the other aspects of ROBLOX.
The forum looks like a very old piece of software if you compare it to the other ROBLOX elements. For example the buttons, but also the Mobile friendless of the Forum.

My idea change the looks of the Forum to keep it clean, organized and also back to web 2.0 instead of web 0.1
This allows the community to have a more organized and cleaner look on the forum and his contents.


2. Add a basic WWYISG editor or BB code
We as ROBLOXians would like this feature because of the next :
1) It creates more clean threads, that will invite the users to read the thread.
2) It make a topic more clean during the fact that we can split it with headings, Align's and text boldness
3) It shows that the ROBLOX community has mature users, that is a good ad for you too.

What kind of BB code or WWYISG features am I thinking off ?
1) Text styling
2) Headings
3) Align
4) Code tags (More about this in Idea 3)
5) A quote tag

3. Code tags
I help a lot of Users on SH (Scripting Helpers) and other Scripter forums. I would love to see a feature were we can post Code tags that would have the next features :

1) Syntax markdown, like if I post the next part of code

function PlayerEnter(Player)
if Player.Name == "Velibor" or Player.Name == "Juriaan" then
print("Hello Owner !")
end
end

Game:GetService("Players").PlayerAdded:connect(function(new)
PlayerEnter(New)
end)

That it will Hightlight just as the Studio does that.

2) A copy button
It will save us a lot of time, during to the fact that we can also copy the styling of the code that creates more clean code. The copy button will stand at a corner of the code window. It will copy it to your clipboard.

3) One language to start, more in the feature.
I would admire it if you allow more the Lua in this System. This is more meant for the Scripters forum then SH

Example :
[code="php"]
Code here
[/code]


4. A quote tag
The quote tag is a tricky one. Because ROBLOX players will do the next :
1) They will abuse the system by clicking on the quote button all the time.

The qoute tag is meant for the community in the next situations :
1) We wanna to reply to a certain user instead of using @[Username]
2) We wanna to reply to the OP question, instead of replying to all that off-topic stuff.

I would say this needs some more thinking to be a part of the forum, but I'm sure it will a great feature.
Also a good working @[Username] can also be working, if we think that out more deeper.


5. The rating system
Some parts of the ROBLOX forums is a mess, let be honest against each other.
Ofcourse you don't wanna to remove those post all the time, because you as Staff are also busy with all the things that you have to do.

Why won't you use the User as a Moderator at the Forums by letting them rate the forum post
Let me explain it to you.

Each post start at 0 points (Neutral)
If a user likes the post then he clicks on the Thumb up icon, else if he dislikes he clicks Dumb down.

-2 points :
The post will have a red background

-5 points:
The post will be hidden, by collapsing it.

0 points :
The post will be shown with a standard background

+2 points :
The post will have a green background

+5 points :
The post will be highlighted and been shown with a little star next to it.

So ? What is the big thing about this ?
A lot of ROBLOX users are annoyed because some of mess with the Forums a lot by there 'Trollol' or only saying a word like 'lol'. Ofcourse fun is also important, but don't do it all the time on the forums where it shouldn't be that off-topic !

Roblox forums will be much cleaner with the feature, and users can see the best post about the subject in one eye.


6. Using ROBLOX decals in our post.
If I try to explain something to a user then I would love it to show him a image to clarify what I meaning to say.
Like we always say : 'A image is saying more then a 1,000 words'

More examples of use at the forums
1) A Robloxian wanna to show his last creation to the community
2) A group logo that must be tested
3) A image of a model where a user would like some reactions on it.

Moderation
I can get that you can't afford to have more images coming in by using a upload feature on the forums.
But it would be nice to have a option to put decals that you own at the forums. That won't take any more load on the servers then the current situation


7. The top poster system
I remembered that, that was really a lot of fun to have that kind of badges on the Forum. That was before your time 2010'ers +
I would love to see a fix to those, and more of those badges.

Ideas for badges on forum only :
1. Big poster
Post more then 1,000,000 post
2. Helper
Help out 1,000 users

How would this be a part of the community ?
More users would post because we teenagers like some award for our work. That has been proofed by your own contest on the Forums and at the special page meant for that purpose.


8. The edit button
For special forums like SH would this be a very high feature. I would love it if I change some grammar or even some messy code.

This clearly needs to have some more limits :
1) Only after a certain time limit you are able to edit the forum post (A hour)
2) Only on picked categories
3) Only as OP has a certain history on the Forums.

Let me explain 3 more closely.
The big thing about editing is that it can be abused, by putting a limit that a user needs to have 100 post before he can edit his post, then you as Staff will have the power to stop this.

The edit button will give us the users the ability to edit our own mistakes, or fix a wrong BB code, fix some grammar, etc.


9. A abilty to close a thread as OP on special forums
Like I said before I'm at SH a lot. I was thinking if a user can post a thread on that category and then close his thread after he get some good answers, then we will see that we can move on to help a other out.

Some suggestions for this :
1) Only on picked forums
2) Multiple status changes. Like resolved, closed, open, issue


This would organize the ROBLOX forums much better, and we can all do our jobs as helpful community.

10. Word of the author
I would like to say that this was a pretty big idea thread. I hope you will read some points and admire it.
ROBLOX, you are doing a great job. But we would love to see our forum be changed with our opinion and be our thoughts. I know that it is a lot of work. I'm a teen webdeveloper, so I know how hard it is to write a forum on your own.

Cheers,
Juriaan and Velibor
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velibor is not online. velibor
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26 Jan 2013 07:02 PM
I would like to hear your ideas a replier on this thread.
Don't be scared by the length, read only the points that are interesting to you if necessary.


Juriaan

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Sonic5479 is not online. Sonic5479
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26 Jan 2013 07:19 PM
Some things could be abusable, but still, support.
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leech111 is not online. leech111
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26 Jan 2013 07:24 PM
Tl;dr. sorry.
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velibor is not online. velibor
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26 Jan 2013 07:24 PM
I'm aware of that Sonic.
And a lot of this ideas needs to have a certain 'security' against abusers.

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zombie2u is not online. zombie2u
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26 Jan 2013 08:04 PM
Support
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boomer549 is not online. boomer549
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26 Jan 2013 08:19 PM
You, my sir... You...

JUST BLEW MY [Content Deleted] MIND.

Support x Sideways 8 (We seriously need that key on the keyboard)
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velibor is not online. velibor
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27 Jan 2013 02:08 AM
Thank you Zombie and Boomer.


Velibor
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angryshoopdawhooper is not online. angryshoopdawhooper
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27 Jan 2013 02:29 AM
Number 5 is abusable. Groups of "Trolls" would keep making thumbs down on the post until it's deleted.
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zombie2u is not online. zombie2u
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27 Jan 2013 09:40 AM
mind = blown
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Evildaddy is not online. Evildaddy
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27 Jan 2013 10:13 AM
This is...AWESOME!
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angryshoopdawhooper is not online. angryshoopdawhooper
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27 Jan 2013 10:52 AM
For 5, when the thumbs down reaches five, it should automatically be sent to a mod, and the mod will review whether it is actually bad or just groups of "Trolls" reporting it.
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velibor is not online. velibor
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27 Jan 2013 10:55 AM
Thanks guys.
And I agree 5 should review by a moderator on -5 or we might need to set the number lower (Like 10)

Velibor
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BlockedRoads is not online. BlockedRoads
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27 Jan 2013 10:58 AM
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velibor is not online. velibor
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27 Jan 2013 02:57 PM
Blockedroads.

Thanks, I just think that is is quite strange that they update every single part of the website. But not the Forum, that is why I posted this.
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CaptainLoony95 is not online. CaptainLoony95
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27 Jan 2013 03:02 PM
Support!
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27 Jan 2013 03:02 PM
Support!



~Pengy the kitty cat
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sam818 is not online. sam818
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27 Jan 2013 03:07 PM
I read through, and I have to say, you did a good job on this Post.
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chiefjustus is not online. chiefjustus
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27 Jan 2013 03:10 PM

Thanks for the very thoughtful post.

I'm not going to respond to the individual points in it, but will say that a major overhaul to the Forums is in the works. It's a big project, though, so please be patient.
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27 Jan 2013 03:11 PM
Support! ^.^
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velibor is not online. velibor
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27 Jan 2013 03:16 PM
Thanks for the Update chiefjustus.

If you have any information about the forum update, then we will see it on the blog.
May I ask or it is on the roadmap of 2013 ?
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modeltester1911 is not online. modeltester1911
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28 Jan 2013 09:07 AM
Yeah, sure.
Sounds good.
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boomer549 is not online. boomer549
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30 Jan 2013 04:14 PM
Yes, I do wonder...

What time (Estimate) do you think this will be out? I understand it's a big project and all, so it'll probably be a couple of months, not to mention people taking vacation and whatnot... If you don't really have an estimate because it'll take so long, I understand.
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zombie2u is not online. zombie2u
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30 Jan 2013 05:55 PM
Bump
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velibor is not online. velibor
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26 Feb 2013 05:40 AM
Trying to get more opinions of other users.
Post your feedback ;-)
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