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Re: Roblox Anti Cheat (Much like Valve Anti Cheat)

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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 02:36 PM
Notes: I've suggested this in the past with another account. I've just migrated onto this account now. I also can't seem to find the old thread, so I've decided to re-create it and make it fresh and new. Thank you for taking your time in reading this.

Suggestion: Roblox Anti Cheat.

Origin: Valve Anti Cheat

Definition: Valve created the game Team Fortress 2 and they added this system to prevent serious hacks and or exploits. The system automatically bans your account once it has detected you use some foreign software which could then be used to alter the game's engine or anything else that could harm the game.

Details for RAC: You could possibly look into it's details a little bit more in-depth, but could create your own version of it. So, here's my idea/suggestion. If a user uses a foreign exploiting/hacking software (ex; Cheat Engine) to alter the game, the system could detect that foreign software. The system would then obtain the user's account information and ban the user's account. For more serious offenses (ex; Altering the website), the system could obtain the user's IP address and then ban the account in question. It would also grab the user's email just in case the user resurfaces. The system could then leave behind a report of the incident with possible foreign software names.

Possible outcomes with use of this system: Reduction of exploited games, reduction/elimination of serious attacks to the website, etc. This would bring in some serious benefits to the site.

Reasons for this suggestion: I've seen an increase in exploited games recently. That means that possible exploits have yet to be patched. I had this idea last year, maybe mid to late 2012. It had numerous support before.

Requests: Please leave your reply with any improvements that are needed for this suggestion, or anything you would like to add. Leave your feedback. All criticism is welcome! :) But, I would advise serious discussion. No replies will be made to immature replies.

Final thoughts: Thank you for taking the time to read through this suggestion. If you're an Admin of ROBLOX, please feel free to give me any feedback or suggestions via PM.
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incredy is not online. incredy
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19 Jan 2013 02:37 PM
tl;dr


Support.




~Logic makes sense~
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 02:37 PM
@Incredy

Thanks for the support.
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Summercakealt is not online. Summercakealt
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19 Jan 2013 02:38 PM
@incredy
you read this in a minute?
dafuq
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 02:38 PM
@Summercakealt

No, he just put TL;DR. Which means "Too long; didn't read."
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Summercakealt is not online. Summercakealt
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19 Jan 2013 02:40 PM
Okay, first off...
dis is heaven in a thread.

I'm not sure about the flaws but I like the idea of taking the e-mail and tracking IP.

How exactly would they track any foreign program?

Other than that, support I guess.
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Summercakealt is not online. Summercakealt
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19 Jan 2013 02:41 PM
@Dx

He didn't read the suggestion, but supported anyway.
Which is what confused me.

Unless he was joking of course.
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 02:42 PM
@Summercakealt

I have no absolute idea. I have a minor idea on how it would obtain the information on possible programs.

Here's an idea: Leave behind a list of possible programs.
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 02:42 PM
@Summercakealt in response to previous reply to the person who stated "tl;dr"

Maybe. I don't mind tl;dr.
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 02:58 PM
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vlekje513 is not online. vlekje513
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19 Jan 2013 03:01 PM
So if you run only CE once your acount gets banned forever? Thats a heavy punishment...
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 03:01 PM
@Vlekje513

I think within this I mentioned "depending on the offense" or something related to that. But, not, an account cannot be banned forever on account of it being a minor offense.
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vlekje513 is not online. vlekje513
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19 Jan 2013 03:02 PM
Well, I TL;DR too...
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 03:03 PM
@Vlekje513

Alright, but thanks for your concern though. Other people might have mistaken it like you did.
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vlekje513 is not online. vlekje513
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19 Jan 2013 03:04 PM
P.s. almost your 6666 post
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 03:05 PM
@Vlkeje513

Thank you! :) I needed a reminder.
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 03:07 PM
Also, a Moderator mentioned a good point. VAC isn't perfect. He's met hackers in TF2 before. But, I think I mention this within this suggestion thread. "May help reduce," so it's not going to be perfect.
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rogeke15 is not online. rogeke15
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19 Jan 2013 03:19 PM
If they run a test version of this, they can find all of the flaws, and then fix those flaws to make it more secure.

Support.

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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 03:20 PM
@Rogeke15,

a test version on a separate version of ROBLOX would do something. Briguy had mentioned that there needs to be a way to track them down in the first place. So, there we go.
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vlekje513 is not online. vlekje513
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19 Jan 2013 03:24 PM
Why not just shutting down CE?
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 03:24 PM
@Vlekje513

Could you go into a bit more detail on that?
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vlekje513 is not online. vlekje513
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19 Jan 2013 03:27 PM
Brickforce... When you open CE a program shuts Brickforce down. Dont ask me how ik that... >.>
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GhostSailor is not online. GhostSailor
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19 Jan 2013 03:28 PM
No. ROBLOX has not done any good updates recently, and they would probably have a lot of false bans from this, since they don't test before implementing.

I'll leave a list of programs anyways, although some might not work any more. I'll also describe how you'd use them

Cheat Engine, injection, value changing, or byte editing.

Poke, value changing.

Fiddler, interception (Fixed, I believe.)

Aurore, not entirely sure on this (I believe this was fixed too.)

These are the ones I know and can think of off the top of my head.

There are more complicated solutions, but I'm not sure if they'd work.

Here's an example of how this could work.

User starts up CE
In user's processes cheatengine.exe is registered as started (I think it varies from version to version, but eh.)
ROBLOX says nope, ban.

The only way this wouldn't work is if the user started clouding process names, which is a lot more advanced than most of the skids on ROBLOX would do.

-~Obly of C&G~-
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19 Jan 2013 03:29 PM
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DxandJohnCena is not online. DxandJohnCena
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19 Jan 2013 03:30 PM
Actually, they do test things before implementation. Also, yes, what you mentioned about clouding is for more advanced users. Now, there is a process that says ROBLOX and Admins could find out it's name in Youtube videos.
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