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Re: Suggestion of the Long Acronym (CSDPWMCSD)Version 2.8.1

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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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09 Jan 2013 10:56 PM
For all of you who wish to know, the CSDPWMCSD stands for "Comment Spam Destroyer Paired With Mini Comment Spam Destroyer" Read and enjoy :D


~-------Version 2.8.1 Change log------------------------~
- Changed character limit to 100 characters
~-----------------------------------------------------------~

PEOPLE WHO HELPED WITH THIS A GREAT DEAL:


GUARDIANTEMPEST
VARP
00GRAVITY00
MIKEYMAN10ASH
WINTERPWNER
JACOBA01



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
IF ANY LOOPHOLES ARE FOUND, PLEASE POST THEM, IF DESIRED, PLEASE LOOK FOR LOOPHOLES, THEN REPORT THEM.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





TL;DR OF THE TL;DR (Since everyone kept telling me to put it on there)

All this is a bot that detects spam in the comments of places and items.
For more detail please read the TL;DR.







TL;DR
A comment spam filter that searches for patterns in comments, looking for words that are repeated over and over again, and if 10 different IP addresses’ all post the same thing within ten days, then the comments will be deleted and the posters of the comments will be notified, if the comment is a valid comment, then the comment can be sent to the moderators to be reviewed to be put in a permanent white-list. Also, before posting a comment, you will be notified before it is posted that the "Copy and Paste" comments are fake and if you want to continue with the post.
This would also change the comment character limit to 100 characters. Now, the MCSD would systematically take out numbers, letters, and symbols in a comment to see if when they took them out, they would be readable. If the same thing is posted by a player 10 times within 24 Hours, then the comment would be deleted. There is also the option to add the comment to a white list if it is relevant. If the same comment kind of comment is deleted 20 times, that comment will automatically be put on the blacklist. Also gives abuse points






Actual post:

Over the years I have played ROBLOX I have noticed a lot of comment spam involving a player copying and pasting things to a certain number of items, then doing something fancy, like pressing F7 or something of the sort. Even when builderman says that they are fake, people spam away saying that they ARE fake, making even more spam. What I am suggesting is a comment spam filter that searches for different patterns in a comment, so if a comment that is posted says "Copy and paste this to 10 different hats and you get 1000000000 robux" then, in the next few hours, 10 other people post that, then that post will get deleted due to all the words being exactly the same.

Now, as many people have pointed out, someone could easily re-word the comment many different ways, adding 0's here and there, taking away letters occasionally, but in the end, all those variations WILL be deleted. Also, when posting a comment, you will be notified that the copy and paste comments are hoaxes and are spam; then it will ask you if you still want to go through with the comment. Now, some of you may be wondering "What about all those relevant comments, won't those get deleted too?" well, as Varp stated earlier in a previous thread, when a post you made gets deleted, you will be notified of it, and if your comment was relevant, the comment will be sent to the moderators for further review, if the comment is passed as relevant, it will be added to a permanent white-list, where comments with that exact wording won't be deleted.


Well, as GuardianTempest stated, there might be an issue with actually getting the anti-spam filter to start working, due to the sheer magnitude of the amount of comments being posted and deleted, that's why there could be another machine devoted entirely to filtering comments, cutting down on the possible lag on the website.


This will be huge for ROBLOX, freeing up a huge amount of space by deleting a bunch of spam and then allowing more features to be added for everyone because of the new space being freed up!


And to help stop the spam, there will be a blacklist! When a comment that is deleted is sent under review for the ROBLOX admins, they will have a choice whether to put it in a white-list, where it can be posted without it getting deleted, or a black-list, where it can't be deleted, when you post a comment that is in the black-list, then you will be notified and the comment will not be posted, the notification will say "Remember, those "Copy and Paste" comments are fake and do not get you any reward!". And to help this black-list do its stuff faster, the comment character limit would be reduced to 100 characters a comment.


The problem I am about to state has come up in my mind a few times, and it has taken me a while to think of a way to stop this. The place advertisers; it's the same character, and 00Gravity00's idea was to make it so that if 10 comments from the same character were made, then it would delete those as well. Though, I realized that the character could very, very easily say the same thing 10 different ways. This is why I thought of the MCSD (Mini Comment Spam Destroyer) Version 1.0! This would search for comments that had things such as "Remove the _'s" and it would keep looking for 5 other comments with "Remove the _'s" by the same character. If the comment is deleted, the character has the option to send it to the ROBLOX developers to petition for a white list. Sadly, while I was typing that, another problem came to mind, that the player could just put a filter on the filter-breaker, therefore confusing the MCSD. This is why I suggest that the filter removes all of one, two, three, etc. letters/numbers/symbols systematically from the comment to see if they filtered something. So if someone did this:


C~o~me~t~o my~plac~e ~an~d ~y~o~u~ge~t ~100000 ticketz
rem~ov~e t~h~e ~'s


Then the MCSD would systematically take out the letters/numbers/symbols until it got this:
Come to my plac e an d y o u ge t 100000 ticketz rem ov e t h e 's. Now you see that the MCSD has un-filtered the comment and will now delete it, seeing as how the outcome would look nearly exactly like the actual message.


However, JACOBA01 told me in another thread that the white list and the black list would be quite full because of the different variations of each word, which is why he suggested that there would be a special spell-checker that also checked internet slang and common misspellings, it would try to fix these errors and check the comment again.


Now that we have the entire spam filter over with, there is now the “Abuse points” system to worry about; originally posted by MIKEYMAN10ASH. Basically, it adds a system that gives you “abuse points” for breaking any rules, and when you hit 30 abuse points, you are banned. Spamming will give you a set amount of Abuse Points and if you spam again, then it will give you one more than that, etc., etc. Hopefully, some of you have noticed that, when the filter first starts it's work, lots of things will have not been added to the white-list yet, so people would be getting un-needed abuse points. Well, if you are caught "spamming" when really, it isn't spam at all and the comment is added to the white-list, the appropriate amount of abuse points will be subtracted. Alas, we must keep the moderators in mind, every player in the game will have a complete record of the amount of abuse points that have been added or subtracted from their total amount. Yes, I did say subtracted, that's right. If you go for one month clean, your abuse points will slowly start going down again until you have zero.


For all of you who have read this far, I thank you and ask you to please post feedback so this doesn't die.
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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10 Jan 2013 05:01 PM
no repeleez?
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ninjafire7494 is not online. ninjafire7494
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10 Jan 2013 05:13 PM
Support.
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brutallyepicboymark3 is not online. brutallyepicboymark3
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10 Jan 2013 05:22 PM
Support.
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EliteChaos is not online. EliteChaos
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10 Jan 2013 05:31 PM
support
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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12 Jan 2013 11:38 AM
Thanks for the support guys :D
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rocksrolling749 is not online. rocksrolling749
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12 Jan 2013 11:57 AM
you dont need to read the suggestion to support

"Music is the only subject where the answers are right in front of you. You just have to play it."
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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12 Jan 2013 07:27 PM
^ Uh.... what he said
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Ronster55 is not online. Ronster55
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12 Jan 2013 07:38 PM
First of all, support. You seem to have worked on this long and hard.

A few things to add:

As to what Jacob told you about "internet slang" and whatnot:
If the word does not exist in the dictionary, but has an ending z, the MCSD or CSD will replace the "z" with a "s" to see if it fixes the word. That way words such as "ticketz" will be resolved to "tickets". If not, then it'll just be recognized as a typo, and the CSD would check the rest of it. Also, the MCSD should recognize symbols used to represent letters:
Ex: $ used to show s, @ for a, 5 for s also, 1 for i, 0 for o, 8 for b, 3 for E or even q for p.
That procedure would only undergo if the filter has already removed the symbols used to block the message and it wasn't blocked.

Also, what would it cost in capital probably for Roblox to implement this?




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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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12 Jan 2013 08:44 PM
@ronster
Ah, I see what you mean, but the spell checker he suggested was a checker that checked for common misspellings of words, so the @ for a, $ for s, etc. would be checked out as a word, but I guess in order to make it more efficient, you could also replace those using the MCSD... I'll have to think about this a bit more.

I don't believe the cost would be much, if anything, seeing as how roblox already has programmers, and although they are working on other things, they could pull a few out in order to work on this.
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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13 Jan 2013 10:54 AM
bump
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13 Jan 2013 10:03 PM
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14 Jan 2013 02:38 PM
bump

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Malconer is not online. Malconer
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14 Jan 2013 02:40 PM
They had this but got rid of it. What happened was it evaluated the amount of times something was posted and determined if it was spam. The result was it registered the word "Support" as spam and banned most S&I'ers if i remember correctly.
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gigabic is not online. gigabic
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14 Jan 2013 02:49 PM
The only problem is that saying common phrases like "noob" in the comments or "reported" or even a "support" will get us all banned.
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ZangooseSlash is not online. ZangooseSlash
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14 Jan 2013 02:50 PM
"For all of you who wish to know, the CSDPWMCSD stands for "Comment Spam Destroyer Paired With Mini Comment Spam Destroyer" Read and enjoy :D


~-------Version 2.8.1 Change log------------------------~
- Changed character limit to 100 characters
~-----------------------------------------------------------~

PEOPLE WHO HELPED WITH THIS A GREAT DEAL:


GUARDIANTEMPEST
VARP
00GRAVITY00
MIKEYMAN10ASH
WINTERPWNER
JACOBA01



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
IF ANY LOOPHOLES ARE FOUND, PLEASE POST THEM, IF DESIRED, PLEASE LOOK FOR LOOPHOLES, THEN REPORT THEM.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





TL;DR OF THE TL;DR (Since everyone kept telling me to put it on there)

All this is a bot that detects spam in the comments of places and items.
For more detail please read the TL;DR.







TL;DR
A comment spam filter that searches for patterns in comments, looking for words that are repeated over and over again, and if 10 different IP addresses’ all post the same thing within ten days, then the comments will be deleted and the posters of the comments will be notified, if the comment is a valid comment, then the comment can be sent to the moderators to be reviewed to be put in a permanent white-list. Also, before posting a comment, you will be notified before it is posted that the "Copy and Paste" comments are fake and if you want to continue with the post.
This would also change the comment character limit to 100 characters. Now, the MCSD would systematically take out numbers, letters, and symbols in a comment to see if when they took them out, they would be readable. If the same thing is posted by a player 10 times within 24 Hours, then the comment would be deleted. There is also the option to add the comment to a white list if it is relevant. If the same comment kind of comment is deleted 20 times, that comment will automatically be put on the blacklist. Also gives abuse points
"


Was this wall of spam really necessary at the beginning of the post?
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meislolroflpwn is not online. meislolroflpwn
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14 Jan 2013 05:54 PM
@Malconer& Gigabit
You guys realize that this is easily fixed by the whitelist & blacklist

@Zangoose
That "Wall of spam" is actually giving credit where it is due, getting rid of people who just say "TL;DR" and telling people who've already read past versions what has changed. So tell me, how is that a wall of spam?
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zatchbell896 is not online. zatchbell896
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14 Jan 2013 05:55 PM
I sadly don't have the patience to read all this. But I get the idea. Support.

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14 Jan 2013 06:26 PM
ty :D
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