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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 06:48 PM
Where the government is allowed to indefinitely detain any person for any reason, without a warrant or charge.

It has a higher percent of it's people in prison than any other country in the world.

Where any person can be executed if the law decides it is correct and fair.

Where 5 million people (probably more!) can't not vote because the government is restricting them (THIS WAS DECLARED CONSTITUTIONAL).

A country that is participating in a failed war on drugs with people being harshly punished and imprisoned for doing relatively minor things.

Where a very large amount of states are restricting people from getting married for religious reasons.

And the motto of this so-called secular nation is "In God We Trust".

So, the government is allowed to indefinitely detain you and your family for no reason, the government is spending a large amount of money executing a very large amount of people because they decide it's right, the government is imprisoning a larger percentage of it's population than any other country and putting them in very inhumane conditions, the government is (and not breaking the constitution by doing so) restricting 5 million people (around .5% of the population, a huge number) from voting, and is restricting people from their right to marry because of obviously religious reasons.

AND SOME PEOPLE ARE CALLING THIS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!
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jimmy2054 is not online. jimmy2054
Joined: 10 Jul 2009
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11 Jan 2013 06:51 PM
Britain isn't much nicer, you're better of in the "good ol' U.S of A!"
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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 06:51 PM
"Britain isn't much nicer"

I agree.
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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 06:54 PM
There is currently absolutely no good countries in the world at the moment.
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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 06:58 PM
What we need to do is overthrow the government.

I urge the American people to pick up their weapons and attempt to organize a revolution.
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jetguy10 is not online. jetguy10
Joined: 14 Aug 2008
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11 Jan 2013 06:58 PM
i don't believe the first reason, there's like thousands of amendments preventing that

sgrgdrgsrg
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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 07:01 PM
"i don't believe the first reason"

Google "Indefinite detention in America".

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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 07:07 PM
You don't have rights if the government says you're a terrorist.
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handsomeguy34 is not online. handsomeguy34
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11 Jan 2013 07:08 PM
It is the whole world not just America
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PunyMasochist is not online. PunyMasochist
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11 Jan 2013 07:09 PM
"You don't have rights if the government says you're a terrorist."

I hope you're trolling.

I really do.

You know why they limit the rights of terrorists? BECAUSE THEY'RE SEEN AS A THREAT TO THE GOVERNMENT AND EVERYONE ELSE.
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multiyoshiman is not online. multiyoshiman
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11 Jan 2013 07:09 PM
What about Canada? Canada's nice.
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Hyphalax is not online. Hyphalax
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11 Jan 2013 07:10 PM
god littlemidget i can't tell if you're serious or not

considering you not only typed an entire paragraph but also left wwc to do it i'm going with the latter
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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 07:12 PM
"I hope you're trolling."

No, I am not. EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU ARE.

"You know why they limit the rights of terrorists?"

The problem is they're allowed to restrict the rights of people who they SUSPECT are terrorists, not just terrorists.

If the government decided to list you as a suspected terrorist then you have no rights.
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LifeIsUnfairReturns is not online. LifeIsUnfairReturns
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11 Jan 2013 07:12 PM
If you're anti-abor.tion the government considers you a potential ter.rorist




Filter trying to prevent political debate I see
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Hyphalax is not online. Hyphalax
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11 Jan 2013 07:13 PM
"No, I am not. EVERY MAN IS ENTITLED TO THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE OR WHAT THE GOVERNMENT SAYS YOU ARE."

well technically if you are a foreigner and not a citizen of the US then you have no rights
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widebrutus is not online. widebrutus
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11 Jan 2013 07:13 PM
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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 07:14 PM
"god littlemidget i can't tell if you're serious or not"

I'm being completely serious right now.

"What about Canada? Canada's nice."

Hate speech is banned in Canada. You also don't have any rights.

The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms is nothing, it doesn't matter.
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PunyMasochist is not online. PunyMasochist
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11 Jan 2013 07:14 PM
"Where the government is allowed to indefinitely detain any person for any reason, without a warrant or charge."

Wrong, there are amendments that prevent this.

"It has a higher percent of it's people in prison than any other country in the world."

So? It also has more immigrants than any other country; don't blame the U.S.; blame its inhabitants.

"Where any person can be executed if the law decides it is correct and fair."

Yeah... this happens in many places.

"Where 5 million people (probably more!) can't not vote because the government is restricting them (THIS WAS DECLARED CONSTITUTIONAL)."

I don't know about you, but I don't want a bunch of 5-year-olds running the government, thank you.

"A country that is participating in a failed war on drugs with people being harshly punished and imprisoned for doing relatively minor things."

How are drugs minor??

"Where a very large amount of states are restricting people from getting married for religious reasons."

The country was founded with religious freedom in mind; this is purely common sense.

"And the motto of this so-called secular nation is 'In God We Trust'."

Again, founded with religion in mind.

"So, the government is allowed to indefinitely detain you and your family for no reason, the government is spending a large amount of money executing a very large amount of people because they decide it's right, the government is imprisoning a larger percentage of [its] population than any other country and putting them in very inhumane conditions, the government is (and not breaking the constitution by doing so) restricting 5 million people (around .5% of the population, a huge number) from voting, and is restricting people from their right to marry because of obviously religious reasons."

The first one is false; also, they're saving money by putting them in inhumane conditions... also, are you implying those that infringe on the law to go to jail don't deserve these conditions? And if they don't restrict people from voting, we would be in anarchy by now.

"AND SOME PEOPLE ARE CALLING THIS THE BEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD!"

That is a matter of opinion, actually.
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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 07:15 PM
"well technically if you are a foreigner and not a citizen of the US then you have no rights"

Not true, every person on US soil, foreign or not, is entitled to basic freedoms and rights.
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Hyphalax is not online. Hyphalax
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11 Jan 2013 07:16 PM
"Not true, every person on US soil, foreign or not, is entitled to basic freedoms and rights."

do you really want to give annoying tourists and illegal immigrants rights?
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ShadowMorel is not online. ShadowMorel
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11 Jan 2013 07:17 PM
Talking about politics on a kids's sub-forums is fun!
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PunyMasochist is not online. PunyMasochist
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11 Jan 2013 07:17 PM
"Not true, every person on US soil, foreign or not, is entitled to basic freedoms and rights."

>Illegal immigrants

lolno
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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 07:20 PM
"Wrong, there are amendments that prevent this."

Go read the Wikipedia page "Indefinite Detention", under USA.

"So? It also has more immigrants than any other country; don't blame the U.S.; blame its inhabitants."

I'll blame the US for not improving the conditions that lead people to become criminals and I'll blame them for their strict laws.

I'll also blame them for the horrible conditions in their prisons.

"Yeah... this happens in many places."

Like North Korea and China.

"I don't know about you, but I don't want a bunch of 5-year-olds running the government, thank you."

These are people who are OF AGE. OVER 18.

"How are drugs minor??"

How are they major? If people want to do them, it doesn't harm you, and I will admit they are a health problem but harshly punishing and imprisoning people is not the way to deal with a health problem.

"The country was founded with religious freedom in mind; this is purely common sense."

If there is religious freedom, then these people should be free from religion and allowed to marry.

"Again, founded with religion in mind."

This was added in the 1950's and most of the founding fathers did not believe in a God, they intended for this is to be a secular nation, it even says so in the constitution.

"The first one is false; also, they're saving money by putting them in inhumane conditions..."

First one if not false, look about.

Who cares if they're saving money? Humans are above money.

"also, are you implying those that infringe on the law to go to jail don't deserve these conditions?"

YES!

"And if they don't restrict people from voting, we would be in anarchy by now."

No, we would be a real democracy.
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gfdshbc is not online. gfdshbc
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11 Jan 2013 07:21 PM
">Illegal immigrants

lolno"

Even illegal immigrants are supposed to have basic rights while on US soil.

"do you really want to give annoying tourists and illegal immigrants rights?"

They're already supposed to have them, so I don't want to give it to them.
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USSRidoits32 is not online. USSRidoits32
Joined: 05 Feb 2012
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11 Jan 2013 07:25 PM
tl;dr
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