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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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09 Jan 2013 10:34 PM
North America
11 million natives dead from European genocide. In America there were weapon bans enacted so the whites could more easily round up and execute entire tribes or raze villages to the ground


Ottoman Turkey
1 and a half million killed. The Armenian Christians were unable to defend themselves because of the gun bans enacted


Soviet Union
Political dissidents and farming communities left defenseless resulting in an estimated 20 million dead


Third Reich & Occupied Territories
Political opponents, Jews, Gypsies, dissidents, and "examples" killed during the Third Reich's reign of terror. BioIron will say that this was a result of unregulated militias however Hitler gained his power legally, with no coup.


Communist China
An estimated 35 million were killed. These were political opponents, rural populations, and "enemies of the state". Prison camps and death penalty to gun owners


Guatemala
Native Americans and political enemies executed numbering to nearly 200,000. Weapon ban not only resulting in firearms but sharp tools such as knives and pitchforks.


Uganda
300,00 Christians and dissidents killed. Government officals able to conduct warrant less searches and possessing unlimited confiscation powers.


Cambodia
2 million dead from Khmer Rogue requiring a license and photo ID.


Rwanda
800,000 Tutsi people dead with the government having unlimited confiscation powers.


Sudan
Christians, animists, black Muslims, and tribal estimated more than 2 million dead from the Arab dominated government. The government enacts harsh gun regulations and bans. Disarming whole tribes to more easily exterminate them similar in a way to the Native American genocide that occurred in North America.


Guns are bad we need to ban them all so only the government can have guns it works out greatly
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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09 Jan 2013 10:35 PM
The US is civilized unlike all of these countries. Never in our history have we had to use guns to fight off the evil government. And thinking that small fire-arms can stand up to the military is stupid anyway.
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thepit45 is not online. thepit45
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09 Jan 2013 10:37 PM
Surely Germany and the Soviets, as evil as they were, we're civilized.
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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09 Jan 2013 10:37 PM
They were also Fascist and Communist. And they weren't overthrown by armed civilians.
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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09 Jan 2013 10:38 PM
Soviet Union, Third Reich, and China re uncivilized?
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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09 Jan 2013 10:39 PM
"They were also Fascist and Communist."
Your point? Germany was democratic until Third Reich legally took power

"And they weren't overthrown by armed civilians."
Because the civilians were disarmed and unable to overthrow the government
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thepit45 is not online. thepit45
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09 Jan 2013 10:39 PM
China was defenately uncivilized at the time.
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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09 Jan 2013 10:40 PM
Soviet Union oppressed its people into poverty. Germany flourished until the war caught up with them. Watch a documentary about Germany life during WWII. China was ravaged for decades by wars and revolutions as well as the genocide committed by Mao Zedong and his cult.
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thepit45 is not online. thepit45
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09 Jan 2013 10:41 PM
If they had guns they could have stopped them.
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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09 Jan 2013 10:42 PM
"Anybody who does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart and anybody who wants it back has no brain. -Vladimir Putin
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09 Jan 2013 10:43 PM
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thepit45 is not online. thepit45
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09 Jan 2013 10:44 PM
I think all citizens must go under 4 months of military training after high school. This way, we do not spend too much money but they are trained and taught maturity. Thisis why Switzerland doesn't have problems.
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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09 Jan 2013 10:44 PM
"China was defenately uncivilized at the time."
They modernized pretty quickly


"Soviet Union oppressed its people into poverty."
While still being one of the most advanced nations of their time


"Germany flourished until the war caught up with them. Watch a documentary about Germany life during WWII."
What is your point? The gun control laws were enacted before the war.


"China was ravaged for decades by wars and revolutions as well as the genocide committed by Mao Zedong and his cult."
As I said they modernized pretty quickly
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09 Jan 2013 10:46 PM
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10 Jan 2013 11:45 AM
You missed UK. Gun crime has never been high here but we have very strict gun laws. I dont know the last time I heard of gun crime here, unfortunatly its mainly knife...But still US should learn from these countries to tackle gun crime.
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TheRealCommander is not online. TheRealCommander
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10 Jan 2013 11:47 AM
TLDR all genocides are because of gun control
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10 Jan 2013 12:34 PM
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10 Jan 2013 01:51 PM
There wasnt gun control in the Ottoman Empire, basically every villager owned a bolt action or a lever action rifle (And those are the poor villagers, who knows what the wealth citizens owned). Thats how the army got most of its supplies in the war of independence, before the treaty with USSR of course. And there was the Ottoman 15th corps. that was not disbanded, which violated the armisice of Mudros.
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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10 Jan 2013 02:31 PM
"You missed UK. Gun crime has never been high here but we have very strict gun laws. I dont know the last time I heard of gun crime here, unfortunatly its mainly knife...But still US should learn from these countries to tackle gun crime."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2798353/Knife-and-gun-crime-have-been-under-reported-police-memo-admits.html

Gun crime is under reported in England.
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mageofpower is not online. mageofpower
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10 Jan 2013 02:33 PM
@Sasuke.

Are you saying the Soviet union and Germany are uncivilized?
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wetheskeyisbeast is not online. wetheskeyisbeast
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10 Jan 2013 02:35 PM
I admint it is under reported and that link says something about 9.8k gun crime incidents last year, not many shootings just people getting caught without the correct licenses etc.
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10 Jan 2013 03:47 PM
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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10 Jan 2013 03:51 PM
^You are saying that the telegraph is unreliable?
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10 Jan 2013 04:08 PM
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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10 Jan 2013 04:10 PM
Hmm, then what would be on quote 'reliable' to you?
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