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Re: If Nasa was privatized...

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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 09:15 PM
They would simply sell of all secrets and equipment from it to china for 10 times what they paid the government for and call it a day while walking off with massive profits.
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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05 Jan 2013 09:16 PM
In space
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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05 Jan 2013 09:16 PM
Doubt it. Why would NASA sell all these secrets to China when they could make so much more profit selling it to the American government once they are ready?
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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05 Jan 2013 09:17 PM
If you all want to have moon colonies and fight aliens and stuff you should have elected Newt Gingrich
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alphaluigi34 is not online. alphaluigi34
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05 Jan 2013 09:17 PM
Who cares about China? They just make our egg rolls and soy sauce!

HAR HAR HAR
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 09:18 PM
It is definitely the smart business thing to do, rater then run a program that is meant to run for decades/centuries and which may prove unprofitable when an inevitable disaster causes bad PR when you can make an impressive quick buck for your stockholders.
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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05 Jan 2013 09:22 PM
China would just lowball them.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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05 Jan 2013 09:23 PM
The first private company to put something on the ISS was SpaceX. They have planned a mission to Mars and have not sod out to China.

"In addition to SpaceX's privately funded plans for an eventual Mars mission, as of July 2011 NASA Ames Research Center had developed a concept for a low-cost Mars mission that would utilize Falcon Heavy as the launch vehicle and trans-Martian injection vehicle, and the Dragon capsule to enter the Martian atmosphere. The concept, called 'Red Dragon', would be proposed for funding in 2012/2013 as a NASA Discovery mission, for launch in 2018 and arrival at Mars several months later. The science objectives of the mission would be to look for evidence of life — detecting "molecules that are proof of life, like DNA or perchlorate reductase ... proof of life through biomolecules. ... Red Dragon would drill 3.3 feet (1.0 m) or so underground, in an effort to sample reservoirs of water ice known to lurk under the red dirt." The mission cost is projected to be less than $425,000,000, not including the launch cost.[58]"
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 09:25 PM
>Why would NASA sell all these secrets to China when they could make so much more profit selling it to the American government once they are ready?


Nasa is a long term game, you don't get it.

We are not talking about financial quarters and quick profits, oh no, we are talking about a humanity building project that will take decades, centuries, heck millenias.

Projects spanning generations, even decades are not know for attracting investors.


It takes governments to build Pyramids, Colosseims, Great walls and Space Programs
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 09:28 PM
>They have planned a mission to Mars and have not sod out to China.

That would be because they built from the ground and do NOT have technological abilities comparable to NASA even back in the 60's


Challenge them to land on the moon, by the end of this decade, they can't do it, half a century latter.


Comparing nasa to space x is like comparing a world war 1 era army against a cold war one.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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05 Jan 2013 09:32 PM
SpaceX, however, wants to land on Mars by 2018. NASA currently has no set year they want to visit Mars by.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 09:36 PM
>NASA's Ames Research Center is working with a private spaceflight firm, Space Exploration Technologies (SpaceX), to plan a mission that would search for evidence of life on Mars (biosignatures), past or present.

Landing a robot on MARS?

HAHAHAHA


Nasa did that in 1975


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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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05 Jan 2013 09:38 PM
Baby steps, Bio, baby steps. It was founded 10 years ago, it does not simply go straight to landing on Mars.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 09:39 PM
It will always be 40 years behind, so if we rely on them, we will be 40 years behind.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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05 Jan 2013 09:40 PM
After baby steps, you start walking. Then you just felt laik runnaing
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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05 Jan 2013 09:43 PM
I disagree. Look how quickly Israel surpassed so many countries in technology, which was just a wasteland in 1948.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 09:47 PM
Meanwhile you when you are flying for the first time, So is Nasa, beyond the speed of lighty
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Avogadro is not online. Avogadro
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05 Jan 2013 09:48 PM
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Hypothesis Contrary to Fact
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 09:57 PM
What is contrary to fact?
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RubiksCubix is not online. RubiksCubix
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05 Jan 2013 09:57 PM
The government is cutting Nasa spending anyway, so this may be the only way to save it.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 10:00 PM
No, cut social security, cut military cut anything but Nasa, for when Nasa succeeds, we will see how to solve our problems.
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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05 Jan 2013 10:32 PM
Privatization of space travel was an Obama initiative, take it up with him.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 10:33 PM
Nasa it's self it not being privatized, it's just after half a century company's have finally started forming space programs.
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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05 Jan 2013 10:36 PM
I said privatization of space travel, not of NASA.

Since space travel is no longer monopolized by the government, it is the same effect.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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05 Jan 2013 10:51 PM
>I disagree. Look how quickly Israel surpassed so many countries in technology, which was just a wasteland in 1948.


It helps when you get millions from the west to develop, but you know, meh.
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