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Re: "In God We Trust"

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xc6Alt13 is not online. xc6Alt13
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04 Jan 2013 04:06 PM
"Today congress passed, 369-9, a resolution to reaffirm that The United States Of America's national motto is "In God We Trust."

If you have to wonder how I feel about this, you don't know me well.

For starters, there's the fact that this is unconstitutional. The first amendment BEGINS with "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." What could be MORE against the first amendment than declaring that the national motto of this country should be "In God We Trust"?

Worse still, the representative who wrote the resolution, Randy Forbes from Virginia, said that his reason for doing so was that people, including President Obama, were mistakingly thinking that our motto was "E Pluribus Unum". Heaven forbid. It would be a national tragedy if Americans were to believe that "Out Of Many; One" was a better motto for our country. A message of unity is unfitting, thinks Randy Forbes. We need one that reinforces a divisive, slavish devotion to an ancient fictitious character.

Because clearly there's nothing else more important that Congress could be using their time for. Clearly, it is absolutely vital to remind people of the correct national motto (which was adopted in 1956, by the way). It's not as if we're fighting two wars, or facing massive unemployment, or if there are nationwide protests against corporate gluttony, or if the current state of the world economy exactly parallels the leadup to the Great Depression. It's not as if censorship, samegender marriage and execution are controversial topics whose laws deserve to be reexamined. No. Congress has nothing better to do than this.

Is it any wonder their approval rating is 9%?

But beyond the hideous hypocrisy and stunning inappropriateness, this was an act of mean-spiritedness too. To claim that "In God We Trust" is an idea so important that we must cement it a credo that we hold above all else, is to spit in the faces of every American citizen who does not belive in "God". Not just atheists and agnostics, but people whose religions place their faith elsewhere. Buddhists, Hindus, Wiccans, American Indians and more have been insulted today. We've been told, 'You don't matter. You're not real Americans.'

Well ---- ---, America.

I wouldn't trust God if my life depended on it. And yet I am still your citizen. And I love you."

Just a journal I saw on the subject of this law.
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alphaluigi34 is not online. alphaluigi34
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04 Jan 2013 04:08 PM
It is also in the pledge of allegiance. "under God, indivisible, with liberty and...".
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xc6Alt13 is not online. xc6Alt13
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04 Jan 2013 04:10 PM
Exactly.

What a theocracy.
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sinii is not online. sinii
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04 Jan 2013 04:18 PM
You ever wonder why USA is one of the crappier first world countries? Why it's so unstable and about to collapse?
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alphaluigi34 is not online. alphaluigi34
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04 Jan 2013 04:19 PM
It is a bad country because it forces you to become a Christian. My Spanish teacher gave me detention because I didn't stand up during the pledge of allegiance.
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Talkingman is not online. Talkingman
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04 Jan 2013 04:38 PM
sinii shut up usa has a beter hdi then ur crapy country
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sinii is not online. sinii
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04 Jan 2013 04:42 PM
There is a correlation between quality of life/social stability and religion. The least religious first world countries (Sweden, Norway, etc.) happen to be the most stable, most developed, and have the most quality. The most religious first world countries (USA...) happen to be the least stable out of all the developed countries.
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Talkingman is not online. Talkingman
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04 Jan 2013 04:44 PM
the usa has the 4th highest hdi and sweden does not have higher only norway does
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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04 Jan 2013 04:46 PM
Originally it did not say in god we trust.
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sinii is not online. sinii
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04 Jan 2013 04:46 PM
What propagantastic source are you using?
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Talkingman is not online. Talkingman
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04 Jan 2013 04:46 PM
i am using wikipedia
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sinii is not online. sinii
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04 Jan 2013 04:47 PM
You believe in Wikipedia?
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Talkingman is not online. Talkingman
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04 Jan 2013 04:48 PM
yes y wud u not
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Kurath is not online. Kurath
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04 Jan 2013 04:48 PM
Sinii, you apparently don't understand your own economics neither ours. The EU is three times more likely to collapse in the next five seconds than America based on escalating revolts in Greece and FYROM and Euro has been more unstable in the past 20 years than the dollar has EVER been.
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sinii is not online. sinii
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04 Jan 2013 04:49 PM
I could go on Wikipedia and change that to put USA as having the 40th highest HDI and they wouldn't change it for a month.
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tomato12 is not online. tomato12
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04 Jan 2013 04:49 PM
Actually, the US is tied for third.

Notice how Norway has gun control yet some guy can walk into a camp and kill 100 people?
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sinii is not online. sinii
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04 Jan 2013 04:50 PM
"Sinii, you apparently don't understand your own economics neither ours. The EU is three times more likely to collapse in the next five seconds than America based on escalating revolts in Greece and FYROM and Euro has been more unstable in the past 20 years than the dollar has EVER been."

I'm not in the European Union, smartbutt. EU should collapse and burn.
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tomato12 is not online. tomato12
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04 Jan 2013 04:50 PM
Actually Sinii, my friend changed one page so Obama got 3 electoral votes and it was changed within a few minutes. And the have mods that make sure you don't do BS editing and vandalism, eh check everything.
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Talkingman is not online. Talkingman
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04 Jan 2013 04:51 PM
sinii if u change usas data i will change it back
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sinii is not online. sinii
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04 Jan 2013 04:51 PM
"Notice how Norway has gun control yet some guy can walk into a camp and kill 100 people?"

Notice how USA has less gun control yet some guy can walk into an elementary school and kill 30 people?
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tomato12 is not online. tomato12
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04 Jan 2013 04:53 PM
30<100
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sinii is not online. sinii
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04 Jan 2013 04:55 PM
Haha, like the number of people killed matters... it's not the gun control that killed 100 people, but the Norwegian who was obviously more skilled than the American.
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tomato12 is not online. tomato12
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04 Jan 2013 04:56 PM
Then how the hell did the Norwegian get the gun?
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sinii is not online. sinii
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04 Jan 2013 04:57 PM
He got it illegally. It does not matter if he killed 100 people or 30 people, he got a gun and killed some people.
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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04 Jan 2013 04:57 PM
Well Norway is one of the richest countries in the world. That pretty much explains it,
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