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Re: Sony patented anti-used game chip for PS4 discs

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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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04 Jan 2013 10:23 AM
Sony has always held a grudge against used games, even back before the launch of the Playstation 3 but it never went through. This time though, they're actually doing it. A patent that would inevitably bring the Playstation 4 down to its knees was filed back in September 2012.


So basically the patent is to combat used games. An RFID chip will be placed on every disc made for the Playstation 4. When a disk is inserted for the first time on a console, the chip will link the disc and the console like Siamese twins, never to be separated. The worst part about this whole thing is that the chip can check the compatibility while its offline. You cannot even play offline.

So this may not seem like much to some of you. I know selling used games is not the biggest thing in our region. However, this also means that we cannot borrow or trade games with our friends! If I wanted to lend you Killzone for the weekend, I would have to give you my Playstation 4 and Killzone. Here is a question, what if my Playstation 4 broke and I had to replace it with another console, what then? Would that RFID chip be able to tell that? I doubt it.

A lot of businesses depend on used games. Gamestop, one of the leading retailers in the U.S, where the selling and trading of used games are on top, saw a sudden drop in their stock overnight. This decision will not only bring down the retail business but it might even bring down Sony's business. SCEA voiced their concern about a decision like this, but ultimately, it's up to Sony Computer Entertainment in Tokyo.

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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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04 Jan 2013 10:24 AM
>sony fanboys will probably defend this

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meldo is not online. meldo
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04 Jan 2013 10:25 AM
Sony's really digging it's own grave here.
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CatFaces is not online. CatFaces
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04 Jan 2013 10:25 AM
http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=86141827

http://kotaku.com/5972787/sony-patent-could-stop-you-from-playing-used-games-possibly-on-the-next-playstation




Should be a solution to stop the Piracy and such. And used game selling will fall from PS4's side.
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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04 Jan 2013 10:26 AM
It probably won't end up stopping piracy and it is only going to hurt companies such as Gamestop.

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meldo is not online. meldo
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04 Jan 2013 10:27 AM
I don't see how it would stop piracy when Playstation games aren't really pirated to my knowledge.
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CatFaces is not online. CatFaces
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04 Jan 2013 10:27 AM
Good for them, buying games for cheap ass and selling it higher, calling that ''profit''.
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spear593 is not online. spear593
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04 Jan 2013 10:28 AM
Sony wants to make money.
The media wants to make money.

Guess what? If they can stop losses (from their point of view) they'll do it.
In short, Sony/Microsoft/any company wants this technology, because it saves them money.
We, however lose from this decision. I honestly doubt it will cut PS4 sales
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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04 Jan 2013 10:29 AM
Inb4BLACKIR0N

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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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04 Jan 2013 10:29 AM
>implying used games are half as bad as stopping people from lending games to their friends
>implying pirating is a problem on PC littlelone consoles
>implying pirating is even proven to be harmful to sales

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CatFaces is not online. CatFaces
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04 Jan 2013 10:31 AM
''Every time you pirate a game, the game company loses 60 dollars or the price of it right now. lelelelelelelel''
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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04 Jan 2013 10:31 AM
>pirating is stealing even though you don't even directly steal anything or affect sales in a noticeable way

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Coloradoavalache is not online. Coloradoavalache
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04 Jan 2013 10:52 AM
I think this is quite identical to the idea the PSP Go had. You could only buy games via DLC on the Go and now the PS4 is maybe (rumor) doing only 1 console only discs to prevent the sale of used discs.
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rst98 is not online. rst98
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04 Jan 2013 12:44 PM
Steam doesn't allow used games and everyone loves it.
What's the big deal with this (fake) rumor?
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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04 Jan 2013 12:45 PM
1. it isn't fake, it was a registered patent by sony
2. because steam is DRM and allows you to buy brand new AAA games for $40 to $50, there's no way to buy used games digitally

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rst98 is not online. rst98
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04 Jan 2013 12:47 PM
"2. because steam is DRM and allows you to buy brand new AAA games for $40 to $50, there's no way to buy used games digitally"
so does PSN, they give you discounts on games you buy digitally
so again, what's the big deal over this?
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CatFaces is not online. CatFaces
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04 Jan 2013 12:49 PM
You won't able to play your friends PHYSICALLY owned game. (On a disc)
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234starwars is not online. 234starwars
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04 Jan 2013 12:49 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THE NINTENDO EFFECT*




*when a company relases pointless periphirals or features/consoles which results in its demise.*




*also known as atari/sega effect.
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rst98 is not online. rst98
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04 Jan 2013 12:50 PM
I repeat, Valve is doing the exact same thing and they're still incredibly succesful.
Deal with it.
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rst98 is not online. rst98
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04 Jan 2013 12:51 PM
Then again, everyone DOES love to hate on Sony for absolutely no reason. So I could see it having a chance of happening.
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epikninja11 is not online. epikninja11
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04 Jan 2013 12:51 PM
Another reason I wil not get the Playstation 4.
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CatFaces is not online. CatFaces
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04 Jan 2013 12:52 PM
If he already played it, there is no way to play the game then.
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zoozooba444 is not online. zoozooba444
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04 Jan 2013 01:21 PM
Thats a risky move that will probably backfire in the longrun.
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PkMnTrainerCRYSTAL is not online. PkMnTrainerCRYSTAL
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04 Jan 2013 01:28 PM
Apparently they didn't ever mention games in the press statement.
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Milbert23 is not online. Milbert23
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04 Jan 2013 02:04 PM
"Steam doesn't allow used games and everyone loves it."

these discs will bind to the console, so if you have to replace it for whatever reason every game you had for the previous console is now worthless

steam obviously isn't the same case
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