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monkeyrobot4 is not online. monkeyrobot4
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02 Jan 2013 06:40 AM
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Content:]
Introduction
Lt. Col
Voting
Conclusion

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Myself and Georgek22 have seen a lot of corrupt High Ranks in our time in F.E.A.R. And we’re sure there’s more to come. But we've come up with an idea to stop us from picking up so many corrupt ones. And yes. I know what you're thinking: "You're not in FEAR". I was a Officer in FEAR. Major Georgek22 and I have come up with a solution to this, the rank "Lt . Col". The Warrant Officers will be put into a vote, the top three of the vote shall be promoted to this rank and then more things will commence (more information in "Voting" section).

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Lt. Col stands for Lieutenant Colonel, at the time of writing, it isn't a real rank. But if this works, it well may be. Lt. Col's will be the best of the best. Warrant Officers will be promoted into this rank if they are were in the top three of the vote, then the winner(explained in "Voting") will be promoted to Colonel if they are the most mature, deserving, disciplined and skilled out of the three and has won the vote.

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Every soldier has a chance to vote. The voting will be put in a forum with the names of the WTO's, 10 WTO's will be put into the voting and you may fill out three or less of them who you want to be a Lt. Col, not anyone else. Just you. After the voting has commenced, imagine Bakugan, Mnlky and Wizard (these were picked at random) are the Lt. Cols, after a few, weeks. (The time is yet to be deicded) the high ranking members (Geo and I if needed) will pick the winner. Imagine Wizard wins (again, another random pick), he will be promoted to Colonel, just because he has won the voting, doesn't mean he has more power, he has the same power as the other Colonels, meaning if needed be, he can be demoted.

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While this may not be official at the time of writing, any VCO+ (PEN if permitted) may deem this official at any time, but if you are a HR and would like further information, please, PM me or Georgek22.

This was made on the 2nd of January 2013.Copyright© Monkeyrobot4 and Georgek22.[Made by Monkeyrobot4 and Major Georgek22]
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DeadlyGlance is not online. DeadlyGlance
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02 Jan 2013 06:56 AM
This sounds amazing. It definitely will prevent corrupt HRs, but, yet again, there comes the friend-favor. People will vote for their friend more, as usual. So, you need to figure that out. Well, someone needs to find out an efficient way to keep people from voting for their friend JUST because they're their friend. With this approach, as well as the one I just mentioned, corrupt HRs will definitely be prevented 95% of the time.
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georgek22 is not online. georgek22
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02 Jan 2013 06:57 AM
Deadly, maybe we should ask them WHY this person should win the vote.
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WAstefulGUySuper2 is not online. WAstefulGUySuper2
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02 Jan 2013 07:05 AM
I Support You Georgek22 :D
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georgek22 is not online. georgek22
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02 Jan 2013 07:10 AM
Thanks! It's great that people understand why this is here. And what it can do!
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stevenliao98 is not online. stevenliao98
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02 Jan 2013 07:54 AM
[inb4 rage]

Personally, I can't help but think that you're a bit naive in thinking this.

Point #1 would be that popularity does not equal quality. This fact was proven many times in FEAR's past, HRs were voted in, and what do you know, s/he does something bad. Think of it this way, if we can't trust our own HRs to choose the people next in line, how can we trust the masses to do it for them?
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gtboy7 is not online. gtboy7
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02 Jan 2013 07:57 AM
I agree.

>The GT
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georgek22 is not online. georgek22
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02 Jan 2013 08:02 AM
Steven, the idea of this is that we get people that train beside them. Raid/Defend with them to vote for the person that acts the best. If the HRs are to make a bad choice. Then that is there fault. We can't prevent the HRs from making those choices.

[ My goal is to help you reach yours ]
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stevenliao98 is not online. stevenliao98
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02 Jan 2013 08:19 AM
What if a BAD leader was favored by the masses because he was lenient, and the GOOD leader was hated for his strictness.

That single factor, which is popularity just destroys the concept of this in my opinion.
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georgek22 is not online. georgek22
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02 Jan 2013 08:26 AM
Steven, if you see my first post. We would find out why they should win the vote. One may be lenient. And Lt. Col would get him nowhere. Due to the fact that the HRs will be deciding who gets COL. Maybe the HRs could put in a Lt. Col of honor, for which they choose someobdy that suits the role. But there final decision is not to be bias on it.
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stevenliao98 is not online. stevenliao98
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02 Jan 2013 08:31 AM
Let me tell you something, almost nothing is objective. People may say things like "I'm not biased" (etc.), but in truth the external influences cause them to be subjective and their own decision MAY and usually IS swayed.

Just because someone is a Colonel doesn't mean they know who would be best to join their ranks.

-Side note
People can give fake reasons of why they should win the Lt. Col. elections
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DoctorCooper is not online. DoctorCooper
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02 Jan 2013 08:48 AM
We originally began the voting proccess to allow our members more of a voice in who becomes high ranks.

There is a major flaw in the system of elections, though. Bias can never be eliminated. I do love this system, though maybe we should establish some sort of electoral college to override the bias votes.
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monkeyrobot4 is not online. monkeyrobot4
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02 Jan 2013 10:02 AM
Alright Doc. I see what you mean.
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Echo3VX is not online. Echo3VX
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02 Jan 2013 11:08 AM
I think this is actually unnecessary.
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monkeyrobot4 is not online. monkeyrobot4
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02 Jan 2013 11:17 AM
Mmm.

And the reason why?
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georgek22 is not online. georgek22
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02 Jan 2013 02:03 PM
Mkay Doctor. I would be nice for us lower ranks to have half a say in who gets HR.

Echo, if you find this un-neccesary. Then clearly you do not undsterand what effect corruptness has on the whole group.
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monkeyrobot4 is not online. monkeyrobot4
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03 Jan 2013 06:36 AM
Precisely, Geo.
If corruptness gets hold of FEAR, you'll be dragged to hatred and not the biggest group. Do YOU want that? I guess not.
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DoctorCooper is not online. DoctorCooper
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03 Jan 2013 11:09 AM
I agree.

LRs should help determine who gets HRs.

We attempted it through having the WTO elections.
How else would you suggest we do this..?
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georgek22 is not online. georgek22
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04 Jan 2013 10:46 AM
Doctor, really we should consider the WTO max. As we have 4 or 5 there at the moment. We need about 5 more before we even start to consider voting for Colonel, until this that is done this may need to be at a holding stage.
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