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Re: Is the world evolving into Socialism?

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5upersonic1234 is not online. 5upersonic1234
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01 Jan 2013 06:54 PM
In the past decades, many countries have made various gains in a leftist direction. Europe and Canada are the most notable. This advances often include things like free health care and putting restrictions on corporations.
The question is, is the world slowly becoming Socialist? If so or if not, is this a good or bad thing?
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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01 Jan 2013 06:55 PM
Canada is not Socialist and is getting farther to the right every day.
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noswad0208 is not online. noswad0208
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01 Jan 2013 06:57 PM
dunno but the us is



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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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01 Jan 2013 07:04 PM
Obama has only 4 years left.

Chris Christie knows how to set things right
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5upersonic1234 is not online. 5upersonic1234
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01 Jan 2013 07:05 PM
For the record, Obama is not Socialist, he's kenyesian. He advocates government involvement in the economy in times of fiscal duress, but is still a STRONG supporter of capitalism
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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01 Jan 2013 07:09 PM
I wouldn't say so.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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01 Jan 2013 07:33 PM
The world is not moving the socialism, just as the sun is not moving closer to us.


Usa is just moving farther right wing.
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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01 Jan 2013 07:54 PM
The UK has had free healthcare for 64 years and only recently denationalised industries such as rail and air. Also the far-right are gaining popularity across Europe.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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01 Jan 2013 07:55 PM
Thank goodness we have the Fourth Reich to suppress the neo-fascists.
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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01 Jan 2013 07:59 PM
Again, the EU is in no way, shape or form ruled by Germany nor does it share any characteristics with any of the Reichs that have existed. It is a supranational entity with a few shared laws and in some countries a common currency. That is all.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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01 Jan 2013 08:00 PM
>nor does it share any characteristics with any of the Reichs


Yes that is true, rest is basically false.
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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01 Jan 2013 08:02 PM
Can you honestly explain to me what is bad about the EU?



Without mentioning the Euro, even though the Eurozone is a distinct entity.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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01 Jan 2013 08:05 PM
I am not saying it's bad, it's good that a Democratic Germany has such control over Europe, because they can never fall to tyrants again because of last time, while others can, so if they lead Europe is safe and the Golden dawn and that Italian Five Star Movement .
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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01 Jan 2013 08:06 PM
...safe from the golden dawn...


I mean.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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01 Jan 2013 08:07 PM
I'm wondering if the OP even knows what socialism is.

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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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01 Jan 2013 08:08 PM
This happens when Americans notice that other countries are not full of far right loons who are anti universal health care, unless it's the third world.
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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01 Jan 2013 08:10 PM
But it isn't controlled by Germany...


Just because they have the largest economy doesn't mean the control it. It's 'controlled' by a group of democratic bodies based in Brussels, Belgium. Each country has its own representatives in the governing body of the EU.
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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01 Jan 2013 08:12 PM
"I am not saying it's bad, it's good that a Democratic Germany has such control over Europe, because they can never fall to tyrants again because of last time"
Yes they can
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RagEgnite is not online. RagEgnite
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01 Jan 2013 08:17 PM
"...am not saying it's bad, it's good that a Democratic Germany has such control over Europe."

The EU was formed from a German company from what I remember, but that doesn't mean that Europe is Germany's puppet.
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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01 Jan 2013 08:22 PM
"The EU was formed from a German company from what I remember"



No it wasn't?
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01 Jan 2013 08:23 PM
"Can you honestly explain to me what is bad about the EU?"

Here is what is wrong with the European Union "Economically".:

The problem is that the poor nations have to much debt. For a while those countries were able to borrow the money. Then the creditors finally woke up from the snooze they were in.

The answer to this situation should be obvious. The answer would be to withdraw their government stimulus but, the kensyians only have one play in their play book.

That is all they know it seems apparent that they do not know or care what the consequences are to this. So you guys keep saying stimulate stimulate stimulate. Although now you kensians have probably recognized the government can't borrow anymore.

So you are substituting the higher German credit. You want to continue to borrow from the Germans. Either that or you want to have even more money to be printed.

The sad truth is that you have structural imbalances beyond belief and there are people like the people in Greece or Ireland who live beyond their means and the Germans allow this all to happen.

To fix it cut out the stimulus and have the market function.

If you disagree with me and think stimulus is good. Then look at Greece. What made them so sick was stimulus. How can the virus be the cure to this deadly disease?


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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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01 Jan 2013 08:28 PM
Just because some states in your union are poor does not mean the union is bad.

The South of USA is dirt poor compared to the rest of the usa and is home to the 47% they ironically vote against.
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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01 Jan 2013 08:29 PM
I was stating what was wrong with it economically i never said that the EU was bad.
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RagEgnite is not online. RagEgnite
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01 Jan 2013 08:30 PM
"No it wasn't?"

My mind's foggy about that, I just know that it was founded in Germany.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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01 Jan 2013 08:34 PM
The EU is more of a country then the Holy Roman Empire was, yet some consider the HRE an actual nation.

the EU is only one step away from more or less being a nation, that 's Military Union, as it's already economic and political.
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