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Re: The Military does not turn on the people in the first

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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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30 Dec 2012 10:20 PM
This is in response to all those who think assault rifles are needed to protect them selves from the US military (Thinking as such is an insult to service members conservatives claim to support, BTW)



Contrary to popular belief Notsys in Germany did not use the power of the military to gain power, in fact the miltiary's weakness is what let them come to power, as when the SA grew to millions and became larger then the military, imagine how much easier it would be for the notsys to cease power if the SA had access to guns before the notsys took to power?

Also it should be noted in this situation is was the fear of the SA that lead people to support hitlol, and the supporting of hitlol made the military TOLERATE hitlol, as military members would STILL try to take him out OVER and OVER and OVER again.

The reason why military dictatorships only work in the third world, is because that is the only job available, for many people, it was the barracks or the streets, so they took to the barracks, and that's why they were so loyal to their leader.

If anything, the story of the notsys tell us the Unregulated citizen militias are dangerous.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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30 Dec 2012 10:35 PM
This will be bumped and linked every time an idiot claims they need ak-47's to protect from them from the US military.
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dxhardys12 is not online. dxhardys12
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30 Dec 2012 10:40 PM
It is highly unlikely the USA would ever turn into a dictatorship

for several reasons
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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30 Dec 2012 11:43 PM
I'm not sure why, but I don't really understand your argument...
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Avogadro is not online. Avogadro
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30 Dec 2012 11:57 PM
Scarily, I agree, bio.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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31 Dec 2012 08:59 AM
@Person

TL;DR Version:

Notsy Germany's military was smaller then hitlols militia, the people were afraid of that and supported hitlol, and since the military thought the people supported hitlol, they grudgingly worked with him even though they tried to kill him several times. Military turning on the people only works in third world countries, as it's the only paying job, so this can't happen in the first world, like Germany, unregulated militias are the only things that can touch us with anything near to a military coup
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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31 Dec 2012 11:02 AM
The people, however, may find it necessary and proper to turn on the military. Sufficient arms would then be required.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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31 Dec 2012 11:05 AM
Hell no, the people have no right to turn on the government when it is elected, that's terrorism.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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31 Dec 2012 11:07 AM
There is no right to revolution in a democracy, If you advocate throwing out a democratically elected government by arms, you are a terrorist.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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31 Dec 2012 11:08 AM
also it would not be "the people" if it's a bunch of violent extremists, then they are terrorists.
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31 Dec 2012 11:08 AM
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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31 Dec 2012 11:08 AM
I bet the House of Commons thought the same thing as their colonies revolted.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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31 Dec 2012 11:09 AM
It's different because the colonies did not have elected representatives.
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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31 Dec 2012 11:11 AM
The British invoked the principle of virtual representation. To them, revolution would have seemed equally obscene.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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31 Dec 2012 11:14 AM
the right thing to do in the case of secession movements would be to hold referendum on leaving the parent state and if that won they would get to leave, if they lost they would stay, but if they were denied a referendum, then protesting would be in order, if they were fired upon, all it would takes is one armory to defect and they would be armed, so no need to walk around with guns in normal civilian life.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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31 Dec 2012 11:15 AM
That is irrelevant, we are talking about REAL democracies
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31 Dec 2012 11:17 AM
What is this, Lexington and Concord? We'd ultimately need the French to side with the resistance or something; ransacking armories was not sufficient to supply the Continentals.
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31 Dec 2012 11:35 AM
Hmm, so Germany wasn't a 1st world country..? Of course it was your wrong they do it everywhere.
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31 Dec 2012 11:49 AM
"Hmm, so Germany wasn't a 1st world country..? Of course it was your wrong they do it everywhere."

did u read the post
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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31 Dec 2012 11:49 AM
It really wasn't. Hyperinflation tends to do that to people.
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gamert7 is not online. gamert7
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31 Dec 2012 11:52 AM
Not really i seen the title. Anyways what about.:

Red China, Soviet Russia etc etc.
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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31 Dec 2012 04:23 PM
Arctic, have you ever read Thoreau's Civil Disobedience?
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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31 Dec 2012 05:10 PM
The term 'terrorism' is completely subjective and extremely vague. One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.


NSDAP was democratically elected. Does that mean the population had no right to attempt to undermine the party, e.g. the Edelweiss Pirates? Was the popular 'terrorism' in Poland, France, Denmark, Norway, Greece etc etc. unjustified?


What a completely silly point to make. If a democratically elected government does not act within the terms of their manifesto the populace has every right to attempt to remove them from power.
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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31 Dec 2012 05:11 PM
Thoreau wanted to revolt because of the Mexican-American war.
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Ryplayer is not online. Ryplayer
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31 Dec 2012 05:12 PM
I'm for gun control but stating that the military doesn't turn on its own people is completely untrue and you know it.
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