Olethrus
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:30 AM |
Because I'll be gone from Wednesday-Saturday for surgery.
--WARNING: This will be an extremely long post. Skip to the *** for the TL;DR version--
Basically, this will be my attempt to counter most arguments we see against Arcen.
---No, this is not to "brag" about Arcen or to show off my "ego." This is created more to inform the ill-informed, etc.---
I: "Huuuuur, Arcen spams c&g!!!"
Is "Arcen" spammed across the forums? Absolutely. Is it done by Arcen members? No, not typically. Sometimes, yes, I do realize we may post an excessive amount of threads at times, but let me set this particular story straight.
Whenever we go on our "superior" rants, it is usually 3-4 of us. We post one thread each. After about 10 minutes or so, the entire front page if filled with you all raging; "@Iso" "@Arcen" "Arcen is such -enter phrase here-" etc.
If anyone spams about Arcen, it is mostly c&g, and not specifically Arcen. I saw someone say it earlier, and I thought it fit really well to this situation.
"All you need is a spark, and c&g ignites a flame"
That really sums it up, 100%.
II: "Arcen is so inactive xDDDDDD"
Recently, I've seen less of this and more of "Arcen is really active, still bad clan tho xDDD"
Either way, for those who still believe we're inactive:
I, myself(someone who really hates math) did calculations at one of our most inactive points, and we were still 27% more active than a clan with 1k+
I'm sure if you read this, this particular clan that I am referencing knows it is them I compared us too, but don't take this the wrong way. I am just mentioning statistics and this is not a flame in anyway.
Has Arcen ever been inactive? Yes. Our development has been extremely slow, so there are times when we've allows ourselves to get inactive, however, even in our inactive stages, we've been able to rally up 15+ if we needed to.
For a clan that barely succeeds 100 members, our activity is absolutely fantastic. I've been in superclans. I've witnessed first hand that we take less time to rally 25+ members than it takes superclans to get 15+. The one thing we "boast" most about, is our activity, but can you honestly blame us?
The thing most clans struggle with is the activity, and the fact that we have been able to maintain a steady, consistent rate of activity is something that we are extremely proud of.
III: "Wow arrogant leaders"
Are we arrogant? Okay, maybe a little bit, but to be fair, we have accomplished a lot with Arcen, especially considering the size. Call us arrogant, or whatever have you, but the fact of the matter is: Most of you who do call us arrogant have never seen what we are capable of. How arrogant is it if you actually can back it up? Most of you will probably say that you've never seen that we can back it up, but that just gives me the idea that you're another c&ger who jumps on the bandwagon and really does not have enough information to judge us.
Might be silly to be referencing songs, but every time someone calls us arrogant, it makes me think of this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiTJ8qo3Wgc
I think the reason most of you call us arrogant is when we go on those "superior" rants. This will sort of tie in with the first section, but I'll go on anyway. As I've said previously, this is not an excuse for our behavior regarding these threads. It is just simply what it is: propaganda. To be quite frank, we've succeeded in that field. We post 2-3 threads, you post an entire page. That's exactly what we want you to do. It gets people talking, get's people to wonder what the big hype of Arcen is, and therefor, results in people joining us.
If you really believe that WE believe we're these "superior beings" then you've missed a step along the way. We can't say that we're the best group. We don't know what the best group is, no one can. However, I think we're entitled, as well as anyone else, to be proud of our group and to think it is a great group. We know, more than any of you, that Arcen is a great group and we're proud of ourselves.
IV: I've seen this quite a lot. "Arcen just flames"
I really have nothing to counter that with. Yes, we flame. So do 80% of the people on this forum. What is the big deal? We are a bunch of competitive people, striving for our clan to come out on top. We're hostiles with one another. That is the REASON we participate in war groups. We're suppose to be hostile.
Unless flaming becomes a distraction in game, I do not see the problem.
If some kid is going to get their feelings THAT hurt because someone online said that their online clan is bad, then, as I've said before, you've got some issues that need to be worked out.
V: "Arcen is a good clan, but has bad leaders"
I'm sorry, but I really have to question your intelligence when I see someone say this.
Arcen would NOT be half the clan it is right now if it was not for the leaders.
Every HR does a fantastic job in this clan. We go above and beyond what post leaders do. We have several people who work as a cohesive unit to keep this clan running. ISOLAYTOR is a great leader, and he has great HRs to help him. Unless you've been in the clan for a long period of time(as well as be active) and can successfully judge our leadership, we won't take your criticism too seriously on this one.
VI: "Arcen is too small to be anywhere near as powerful as they claim"
We keep our numbers right where they are for a reason. It might sound cheesy to say, but in all honesty, Arcen is sort of like a big family. We're all friends in the clan, we all play third party games, and we speak with third party communication. Our friendship with the members is not set strictly to the clan. We actually take the time to become friends with them. In my opinion, this is a fantastic thing. THIS VERY THING RIGHT HERE, is what makes us as powerful as we are. We're all supportive of each other, most members are 150% dedicated and loyal. No matter how many wrong doings(AAing other clans, etc) you can pin on us; Our loyal, active members will stay with us.
We've proved time and time again how powerful we really are as a clan. We work together, we stick together. No matter how many times others deny it, we know better than anyone, how powerful we really are.
Don't let our member count confuse you. For such a small clan, we've got a pretty big bite.
VI: "Arcen is only active because you spam PM your members to come to events and do activity checks too often"
"Spam PM" That always makes me laugh. We PM online members ONCE per event, approximately 10-15 minutes before the event is officially started.
If that is considered spam, then I don't know what to tell you. Yes, we've had people leave because of this. If you're going to cry about how many PMs you're getting to come to events, you are probably not very active with the clan. We want our members as dedicated and active as we can get them. If that means PMing every online member to come to an event, then we will do it.
Regarding activity checks: It's incredibly easy for people to fall inactive in a clan that has such a slow development rate. We realize our development is slow, yet we still want our members active. If that means PMing EVERY member, online or not, to go in game a grab a badge every so often, then we will do it.
As I said earlier, most clans struggle with keeping activity up. If this is what Arcen has to do to ensure that every single member is as active as they can possibly be, then that is what we will do.
***TL;DR*** Arcen is a great clan. This is not me boasting about how fantastic we are, so before you leave an ignorant comment, take the time to read through this.
Any other arguments against us? Comment below and I'll see what I can do.
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:32 AM |
Bye :c
Hope the surgery go well..
-Santa's Lil Girl. |
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:32 AM |
| You are boasting about have fantastic you are. |
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AlexR1212
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:32 AM |
It is a great clan. The only reason I don't join is because it's not my "style".
Y'all go hard, I go smart. |
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Olethrus
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:36 AM |
@Sub, thanks. If all goes well, I'll be home Saturday.
@Kung, you obviously did not read this very well. I stated at the top that this is nto for me to "brag" about anything, but rather inform the mis-informed and to give you reasons as to why we are a great clan.
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drdumke2
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:39 AM |
| Good thread. Grew a lot in my eyes. Only thing I don't agree with is IV: C&G was meant for fun, not flamers. Know the difference. |
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drdumke2
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:41 AM |
| Oh, and, good luck with your surgery. |
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Olethrus
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:41 AM |
"C&G was meant for fun, not flamers. Know the difference."
Yes, I realize this is what is what meant for, but for the longest time, it has never been this way. c&g is not used how it was made for and most likely, hardly ever was. As I stated, we participate in war clans and it is natural to be hostile to one another. If some kid is going to cry in real life because someone called his clan bad, he has a lot more to worry about than that.
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Olethrus
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:41 AM |
and thanks. It's for a removal of an extremely large kidney stone. It is not a high-risk surgery, so hopefully all will go well
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Olethrus
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:50 AM |
C&G is really inactive at this time of night :(
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fox1238
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:51 AM |
OH
MY
GOD
Good luck in surgery. Still have nice voice? .-. |
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eletrowiz
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:51 AM |
Omnomnom.
Either inactive or filled with spammers looking for a higher post count.
➣ -={3137}=- ➣ |
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fox1238
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:54 AM |
OH
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GOD
WTF
WTH
You have to PM me a LONG story, Chimpy. |
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fox1238
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:56 AM |
| I used to be in Arcen, but became too busy. I used to be the third rank thing. :c |
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| 19 Dec 2012 12:57 AM |
I: "Huuuuur, Arcen spams c&g!!!"
Is "Arcen" spammed across the forums? Absolutely. Is it done by Arcen members? No, not typically. Sometimes, yes, I do realize we may post an excessive amount of threads at times, but let me set this particular story straight.
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I can admit to spamming arcen>you, but it is arcen propaganda, and it's c7g related. So shove it. |
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Olethrus
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| 19 Dec 2012 01:02 AM |
I think my voice is still the same? lmao
and what long story? There isn't much that has been going on.
Solar noob I wasn't talking about you
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wakbob
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| 19 Dec 2012 01:03 AM |
| @Ole but Arcen do spam C&G :/ |
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Olethrus
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| 19 Dec 2012 01:03 AM |
I remember you being in V O I D briefly, Fox. not sure about Arcen though, but maybe.
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fox1238
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| 19 Dec 2012 01:04 AM |
Yea there has.
NOW STFU AND WRITE
jk sorry
How could you say that?
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fox1238
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fox1238
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| 19 Dec 2012 01:06 AM |
Fun time at the TC thing. ^.^
#typical stalker |
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Olethrus
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| 19 Dec 2012 01:06 AM |
@Wak, the word "Arcen" is spammed regularly. Most of it not done by Arcen members. Maybe here and there, but the majority of the spam comes from regular c&gers trying to jump on bandwagons
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