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Re: Alot of people say drones are unethical.

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GreenShaman is not online. GreenShaman
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16 Dec 2012 05:57 AM
My response is "Hey, robots."
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XC6Alt5 is not online. XC6Alt5
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16 Dec 2012 06:39 AM
define "drone"
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milktea is not online. milktea
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16 Dec 2012 07:38 AM
An unmanned combat air vehicle or combat drone or simply "drone" is an unmanned aerial vehicle that is armed and has no onboard pilot. Currently operational drones are under real-time human control of unknown precision.
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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16 Dec 2012 07:58 AM
They are unethical.
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XC6Alt5 is not online. XC6Alt5
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16 Dec 2012 08:02 AM
how are they unethical?
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JimmieSwaggart is not online. JimmieSwaggart
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16 Dec 2012 08:06 AM
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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16 Dec 2012 08:08 AM
They murder more civilians than they kill terrorists.
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XC6Alt5 is not online. XC6Alt5
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16 Dec 2012 08:13 AM
"a savage like you wouldn't understand"

it was a legitimate question?

"They murder more civilians than they kill terrorists."

oh i see
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GreenShaman is not online. GreenShaman
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16 Dec 2012 11:01 AM
Hey, robots man, there pretty cool.
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TheRealCommander is not online. TheRealCommander
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16 Dec 2012 11:03 AM
Weapons are not unethical (well...) how you use them can be.
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Laurisreinho is not online. Laurisreinho
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16 Dec 2012 11:08 AM
what if drone is against another drone? what is the point of it?
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twigs182 is not online. twigs182
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16 Dec 2012 12:34 PM
I don't think human controlled drones are unethical, but the way in which we are using these drones is unethical, in fact, its a war crime.
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Jake15151 is not online. Jake15151
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16 Dec 2012 01:07 PM
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DanBloxTheGreat is not online. DanBloxTheGreat
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16 Dec 2012 01:19 PM
Lauris, Drones can't actually fight each other, they hit ground targets.

They absolutely are unethical, they do the job, but they also wipe out anyone near the target.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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16 Dec 2012 01:30 PM
@Dan

Please explain how the drone itself is unethical.
Some religions say life should only be created by God/Allah/some other god, drones are not life. They are controlled by living beings, but the drone itself is not life.
The way they are used, however, can certainly be considered unethical. Not the drone itself.

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Tenal is not online. Tenal
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16 Dec 2012 01:31 PM
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DanBloxTheGreat is not online. DanBloxTheGreat
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16 Dec 2012 01:35 PM
Drones have one Manifest Function, they do that Manifest Function so terribly that they kill several innocent lives.

There is no other use for drones, therefore the drone itself is unethical.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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16 Dec 2012 01:42 PM
So basically a drone is like a machine and it's only function is to turn off, which depends on it existing? Replace turn off with kill and you have a drone.

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DanBloxTheGreat is not online. DanBloxTheGreat
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16 Dec 2012 01:44 PM
I said it's only MANIFEST function is to kill.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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16 Dec 2012 01:45 PM
So since that one manifest function is to kill, and the drone ends up killing others than the target, that makes it so inefficient that it's unethical?

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DanBloxTheGreat is not online. DanBloxTheGreat
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16 Dec 2012 01:50 PM
Yeh that would be a good way of putting it. Only because it's inefficiency affects lives.
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mikeyman10ash is not online. mikeyman10ash
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16 Dec 2012 02:04 PM
If the target were to be a group of people, would that change the viewpoint of it being unethical?

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TheRealCommander is not online. TheRealCommander
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16 Dec 2012 02:12 PM
Say a drone attacks an armored column with its missiles, i dont see how that would be unethical.
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DanBloxTheGreat is not online. DanBloxTheGreat
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16 Dec 2012 02:24 PM
Point made..

Drones aren't unethical, some of the reasons they are used are unethical.
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twigs182 is not online. twigs182
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16 Dec 2012 03:18 PM
Drones aren't unethical, some of the reasons they are used are unethical.
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I think autonomous drones are as unethical as landmines are, but like I said before, human controlled drones are not unethical, just as using a cruise missile isn't unethical. It is the way we use these drones that is unethical/war crime.
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