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Re: (VS HR) The things I don't like 'bout VS

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plap1 is not online. plap1
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05 Dec 2012 04:11 PM
Vortex Security the 3rd biggest clan

I would like to stay anonymous for this since there is a change of being demoted or exiled.

The things I don't like and think it's bad for VS.

MR Qweeba, In my opinion and other VS members as well Mr Qweeba doesn't do much with VS he just let it go and do some random things what VS really needs to get is a Loyal and great Leader.

HR's/Immature,Childish: The recent things what I've seen are HR's who're very childish on raids or/and training I would like to see and many others a big HR reform since there are many People (I wont call names) Who're very immature.

HR's leaving because of the bad leadership of the leader of VS: He don't show loyalty respect and activeness with these things also HR's will get lazy and the only thing they (Not everyone) is hosting Trainings

I really would like to see some changes around VS

VS need more activity not like an useless war.
A HR reform
More Maturity
More activeness from the Leader and HR's of VS
And much more.


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plap1 is not online. plap1
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05 Dec 2012 04:12 PM
~ A VS HR
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XxMrMoonmeatxX is not online. XxMrMoonmeatxX
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05 Dec 2012 04:12 PM
Support.
I think VS is turning into a fun group or already has, and they only get serious in wars and some of the HR's that are strict are the ones keeping it all together.
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teslobo is not online. teslobo
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05 Dec 2012 04:13 PM
You did well to mask yourself. I voiced my opinion about VS 'trying to cure poisoning with a bandage' and got exiled for it... permanently.
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igoing2win is not online. igoing2win
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05 Dec 2012 04:14 PM
VS actually do quite well at raids, but them talking usually causes them to lose. I would like to impose a less talky, more shooty rule, if I could.
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plap1 is not online. plap1
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05 Dec 2012 04:16 PM
Ok.
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Technicworkspace0 is not online. Technicworkspace0
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05 Dec 2012 04:21 PM
You have my support.
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Sapun2000 is not online. Sapun2000
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05 Dec 2012 04:23 PM
@Tes
That's sad. If VS won't accept critisism it's a very bad clan.
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teslobo is not online. teslobo
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05 Dec 2012 04:24 PM
Oh, no. VS are fine with it. Qweeba isn't.
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shutupkoolman is not online. shutupkoolman
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05 Dec 2012 04:25 PM
Guess: Sinblade
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casden1 is not online. casden1
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05 Dec 2012 04:27 PM
Wow.
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Sapun2000 is not online. Sapun2000
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05 Dec 2012 04:27 PM
Tes, the leader represents the clan.
Bad leader, bad clan.
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teslobo is not online. teslobo
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05 Dec 2012 04:28 PM
Actually, Imnotaguestimagirl practically leads it and qweeba pops in from time to time to drop unneeded bombshells.
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shutupkoolman is not online. shutupkoolman
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05 Dec 2012 04:30 PM
Possible support
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teslobo is not online. teslobo
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05 Dec 2012 04:31 PM
There isn't a gray area, shutup. Especially for a colonel. You are with it or against it.
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Sapun2000 is not online. Sapun2000
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05 Dec 2012 04:32 PM
Well you guys better find a plan to get rid of qweeba then.
Shame, I thought about joining VS. Seemed quite alright, but I don't wanna take the risk of being demoted for no real reason.
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adpunk4445 is not online. adpunk4445
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05 Dec 2012 04:37 PM
let me, adpunk, address this

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"I would like to stay anonymous for this since there is a change of being demoted or exiled."


Freedom of speech DOES exist.




"MR Qweeba, In my opinion and other VS members as well Mr Qweeba doesn't do much with VS he just let it go and do some random things what VS really needs to get is a Loyal and great Leader."


You clearly don't see the work Joe puts into VS. I'm actually pretty sick of the lack of respect there is for him. He co-ordinates all the Commanders, Lt Commanders and Generals, who by extension co-ordinate the lower ranks. He's on the forums every single day, fighting for VS's reputation. And despite being insulted by people from pretty much every walk of Roblox, he keeps going. Get some respect, actually.




"HR's/Immature,Childish: The recent things what I've seen are HR's who're very childish on raids or/and training I would like to see and many others a big HR reform since there are many People (I wont call names) Who're very immature."


I agree with this, actually.




"HR's leaving because of the bad leadership of the leader of VS: He don't show loyalty respect and activeness with these things also HR's will get lazy and the only thing they (Not everyone) is hosting Trainings"


As I addressed in the earlier point - no. If they leave, they're bad HRs, frankly.



"VS need more activity not like an useless war."


Whoa, you crossed the line right there, chap.
VS went into the war at my saying, due to our want to support our oldest and most loyal ally, WIJ. Then, TRA and UCR came in to support us too. NOT ONLY is this increasing our overall activity levels, and raising visits at the HQ, it's most certainly helping us bond with our allies, as I think I've seen from talking to ally leaders. We're winning this war, and even IF Chibi and I decide to declare war on JC, SC and HL, we will keep winning. Furthermore, this war is greatly helping ST, Falcons and Hawks set up. So, useless? You better bet not.



"A HR reform
More Maturity
More activeness from the Leader and HR's of VS
And much more."

I agree with these, except the qweebs one.



and next time id prefer you PM this to me instead of the forums
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plap1 is not online. plap1
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05 Dec 2012 04:38 PM
@Sap It's really stressing for being a HR to say something he/she don't like about VS and think what may change in their opinion Some HR's just don't like "Anti propaganda" but I am 100% Sure that the HR's in VS really thinks VS need to change but they just don't want to say it.
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teslobo is not online. teslobo
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05 Dec 2012 04:38 PM
"Freedom of speech DOES exist."
My past says otherwise.
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adpunk4445 is not online. adpunk4445
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05 Dec 2012 04:40 PM
and for all the naysayers who i'm actually demoting now:-


lilly is a damn fine HR, and an excellent head commander. BUT Chibi is our current leader, and a VERY good one. People who pretty much express their views as "lilly 4 leaders!!!!!!!!!!!" get demoted, due to a serious lack of respect for a fine leader, and the fact that a lot of them focus more on that than their actual jobs.


VS's main fault is the current HRs, but we're clearing that up. It's going to happen faster what with the "disrespect against chibi" punishment that he and I decided on.
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devinzeth is not online. devinzeth
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05 Dec 2012 04:43 PM
Support.

~Abe Lincoln~
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plap1 is not online. plap1
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05 Dec 2012 04:45 PM
@Adpunk in my opinion Mr qweeba isn't that good I really can't see what for good things he have done for VS since he's the owner. VS has gone downhill and I just don't see that he can solve that problem but I have my full trust on him but I don't think with Mr Qweeba as leader VS is going uphill.
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devinzeth is not online. devinzeth
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05 Dec 2012 04:45 PM
VS has it's flaws.
All Groups have there flaws.

Mr Qwee is pretty Active though.
We have even had him at a few FEAR Meetings.

~Abe Lincoln~
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devinzeth is not online. devinzeth
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05 Dec 2012 04:47 PM
Plap,
VS has wet downhill a lot.
Not Qwee's fault. Ever since Justgoaway1 left, that is where it all started to go downhill.

~Abe Lincoln~
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plap1 is not online. plap1
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05 Dec 2012 04:48 PM
Yes I know but Qweeba was the leader he must take his responsibility and solve it but Qweeba didn't do anything in my eyes.
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