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Re: Morals vs. Science

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Abandonedbank2 is not online. Abandonedbank2
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01 Dec 2012 05:30 PM
Do you feel we should have morals in science? If so even if it stops us from making huge breakthroughs?
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TheRealCommander is not online. TheRealCommander
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01 Dec 2012 05:32 PM
Obviously, im not going to endorse nzi human experiments.
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Abandonedbank2 is not online. Abandonedbank2
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01 Dec 2012 05:33 PM
Even if the outcome of those experiments had the cure for cancer or AIDS?
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Corridan is not online. Corridan
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01 Dec 2012 05:34 PM
if the people consented to it?
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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01 Dec 2012 05:36 PM
^
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Person299 is not online. Person299
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01 Dec 2012 05:38 PM
Without Nzi experimentation on Soviet prisoners of war, we wouldn't know most of what we do about Hypothermia, until, of course, a few years later when people would have found more humane ways to research it.
And without Japanese experimentation on Manchurians, we wouldn't know what happens when you cut off someone's limbs then reattach them to the other side, or what happens when you cut out someones stomach and attach their esophagus directly to the intestines, and thanks to WW2 Japanese vivisection doctrine, we can be sure that the needless use of anesthesia didn't interfere with the outcome of the test results.
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XC6 is not online. XC6
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01 Dec 2012 06:24 PM
I don't know. I think rodents which can be genetically cloned should be given away to science.
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faker247 is not online. faker247
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01 Dec 2012 06:26 PM
If scientists ask for volunteers for a wild amount of experiments, there would ALWAYS be people who willingly sign up.

especially if there is payment.

People who are terminally ill would certainly want to leave their familys with cash
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XC6 is not online. XC6
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01 Dec 2012 06:27 PM
I think there should be basic care, such as life guarantee for the test-ees and very readily-available medical professionals and their equipment. Lives are valuable.
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KnownSonata is not online. KnownSonata
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01 Dec 2012 07:57 PM
Science can help us save people. But to save a few, you might have to kill a few.

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sinii is not online. sinii
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01 Dec 2012 08:41 PM
whats better? testing in humans or testing in other animals
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MeGustaUganda is not online. MeGustaUganda
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02 Dec 2012 12:32 AM
Obviously, im not going to endorse nzi human experiments. x2
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SSstar is not online. SSstar
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02 Dec 2012 01:30 AM
There is an easy to see line most of the time where you cross the line of morally acceptable.
There are a few small exceptions though.
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XC6 is not online. XC6
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02 Dec 2012 06:21 AM
"There is an easy to see line most of the time where you cross the line of morally acceptable."

well not really at all
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SSstar is not online. SSstar
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02 Dec 2012 06:57 AM
so there's no line between pulling a live person apart and screwing with their organs or doing the same to a dead person's body?
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XC6 is not online. XC6
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02 Dec 2012 07:22 AM
"so there's no line between pulling a live person apart and screwing with their organs or doing the same to a dead person's body?"

not at all
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Flurite is not online. Flurite
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02 Dec 2012 07:33 AM
@xc6,

Even though I disagree with both of them, there is a huge difference. If you pull the a person's body parts off, then you KILL that person. He lost his life. If you pull the dead person's body parts off, then you really don't do anything to him.
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Kurath is not online. Kurath
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02 Dec 2012 09:24 AM
^ I agree with the guy I used to swordfight with
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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02 Dec 2012 10:54 AM
>Even if the outcome of those experiments had the cure for cancer or AIDS

Is the person walling to sacrifice themselves?

Then bring it on.
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SolarSentient is not online. SolarSentient
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02 Dec 2012 03:20 PM
Or create AIDS cough stalin breeding humans with apes Cough
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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02 Dec 2012 03:40 PM
Nice idiot myth.
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SolarSentient is not online. SolarSentient
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02 Dec 2012 03:47 PM
Either that or people wanting to control the population, just read it in a magazine, can't verify the source
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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03 Dec 2012 04:14 PM
Then date say random crap you can't back up with educated research as if it's authoritative source.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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03 Dec 2012 04:21 PM
don't*
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NotQwazola is not online. NotQwazola
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03 Dec 2012 05:07 PM
Morals will always exist anyway
You'd be an emotionless robot if you never incorporated morals into what you did.
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