Verodoxys
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| 02 Dec 2012 08:26 AM |
First and foremost, I'm going to try to leave the bias of me being a HR in JC out of this thread to the best of my ability (Yes, I even took off my JC uniform.)
Also, I do not find JC "unskilled" or "noobish" in any way, shape, or form; I merely want to show why I think others do.
I have a few theories on why JC is seen as "unskilled", and I'll explain them all as quickly as I can.
Theory 1 - Mass Recruitment and Inactivity
One of my theories is that mass recruitment and inactivity of the individual troop are here and working in JC. Like, if I'm a guy whose already in FEAR, RAT, TLE, and RIU, and I go and join JC, maybe head to a few trainings, sure, I might become better at fighting, but when I turn inactive, all that training goes to another group.
I'm saying it's like a broken factory, our training system. We teach and train the newcomers, who go inactive and never come back.
Assuming this is why we're seen as unskilled, fixing it is almost easy; Make the troops active, and make them stay active.
Theory 2 - The Member to HR Ratio
So, right now, JC has 36 people who can host trainings.
Considering JC's size, this is worrying. Assuming the average training is with 20 LRs, that means that if every HR who can host a training did, and hosted one, and that every member only went to ONE training, the HRs would only train 720 men.
Out of nearly 40k.
The obvious solution to this, if this is what causes JC to be seen as "unskilled", is more HRs who can train the Cobras fast and efficiently (A few good examples are 12gooroo12, Icycicle, and zdude3000).
Theory 3 - Bias
I'm sure the "revolution", as JC calls it, is still fresh in everyone's mind, and the idea of it is universally similar; John's Cobras declared "independence", if you will, and declared war on every superclan. Every superclan ganged up on JC after that, and the rest depends on whether you're a hater or a nationalist.
People in C&G argue that JC failed the revolution horrifically, and Cobras will forever say that JC's revolution worked.
This is actually really important to unlocking why JC is seen as "unskilled".
I think a possible reason that JC is seen as unskilled is because C&G is being biased against them, for any reason, and that JC actually are very skilled.
I tend to live by this quote:
"Every man has his biases, yes, but only the better man shall realize and acknowledge his biases."
-John Green
Theory 4 - Lack of Capable HRs
Now, I'm not hating on ANY JC HR, but the chance that our HRs are not training our men to the best they can be is not only shocking, but certainly existent.
The fix to this is plain and simple better HRs, however, I really don't think that, even if this is a cause of JC's "lack of skill", it can't be the only one, because I know for a matter of fact that our HRs do a good job generally, although I will argue that some should turn it up a notch.
I've hopefully shed some light on this, and I'm hopefully not going to be tackled by hardcore JC nationalists from one side, and C&Gers from another, but I think these are the reasons.
-Verodoxys, JC Colonel |
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teslobo
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| 02 Dec 2012 08:29 AM |
I'm okay with JC. What they did in the past was the past. I'll be 100% happy with them if they actually updated fort fang to a quality that equals most modern forts today. |
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Verodoxys
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| 02 Dec 2012 08:31 AM |
Teslobo, I'm not actually allowed to say much, but I think I can say that you are getting your wish for Christmas.
Hopefully. |
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| 02 Dec 2012 08:32 AM |
Very mature post, Vero. I hope people will understand this post. |
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WARAIN
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| 02 Dec 2012 08:36 AM |
On a scale from Weak to Strong, JC would be intermediate.
They have some skill, but they're not exactly the strongest. |
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| 02 Dec 2012 08:46 AM |
| JC do have skill, the thing is, that people say they don't, beacause they don't like them... |
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| 02 Dec 2012 08:47 AM |
| Vero, I joined JC yesterday actually. I only like defending Fang cause of the Juggernaut suit. |
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| 02 Dec 2012 08:53 AM |
"JC is unskilled"
statement==true
But, in all honesty, let me tell you why these soldiers of yours are less than adequate to terrible.
Every now and again, I go to Fang for KOs, and start rushing in with my Uzi.
'Same old stuff, but here's the problem... JC couldn't even take out 1 guy. ONE GUY!
I only had an UZI, and took on around 12 LRs in JC, managed to take the flag from them and hold it from them for 1300+ seconds.
In the end, they aren't skilled, they need MORE training, more skilled communication, and need to learn to kill other than grabbing a sniper VIP and oneshotting people to oblivion.
And frankly, this is why only the HRs to MRs are actually a threat to raiders; they know how to handle a gun, and generally have a Sniper VIP.
Another bad trait; they tend to rage quit when faced with a burden to heavy to overtake, in this case a raider that just refuses to die.
-Irish, quality without compromise- |
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| 02 Dec 2012 08:59 AM |
I can go to Fort Fang alone on an alt and wipe out the entire server and hold the flag for the full amount of time.
And it's not just low ranking JC members either.
JC relies too much on their Imperial Guard, who are WAY overrated then what they really are.
A group who relies on some division instead of bettering themselves get lazy and weak, and eventually wind up being taken on by even a single raider.
Now, if Epicrules or someone else owned JC, I'm positive there'd be improvement, but sadly JC is stuck with psp and is going nowhere.
[You don't like me? Mind over Matter: I don't Mind and you don't Matter.™] |
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| 02 Dec 2012 09:00 AM |
| People who think JC are noobs, are people living in the past. |
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| 02 Dec 2012 09:07 AM |
youre actually the only legit jc vero
~If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice~ |
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Verodoxys
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| 02 Dec 2012 09:10 AM |
It's going pretty nicely, Wierdo.
And thanks, greek. |
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| 02 Dec 2012 09:30 AM |
| I go to Fort Fang. And I see JC holding off well, pretty much all of the time. However, I do not go there regularly. |
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Verodoxys
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zdude3000
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| 02 Dec 2012 11:27 AM |
I will tell you the reason. It is because of our horrific High ranks. A bunch of them are COMPLETELY idiotic. The way they train is terrible, they don't TEACH Jc. What they do is obby, free for all, death obby, promotion. No teaching involved.
But is not just the HRs it is also the LRs inability to learn. They refuse to learn and only care for promotions, which is why the new rank criteria I showed you will become VERY benifical.
I do agree, clans in general are still a bit biased towards JC. This was actually a very well thought out and informative thread. |
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zdude3000
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| 02 Dec 2012 11:28 AM |
| *It's, My bad I put "But is not" It should of been "But it's |
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hammer124
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| 02 Dec 2012 11:28 AM |
To the people wanting new technology and forts, that is why I made OMEGA.
-Frosty the Snowham |
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Verodoxys
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| 15 Dec 2012 08:01 AM |
sorry,i dunt listen 2 womanly men okay
~We live in a society where pizza gets to your house before the police.~ |
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