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twinkie424 is not online. twinkie424
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01 Dec 2012 11:39 PM

They want to govern our internet and take away some of our liberties- yet when they need money they turn right to the US and start to beg.

[-[★-]Blue will prevail~
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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01 Dec 2012 11:57 PM
im pretty sure the US has to ratify any policies they put into place and its against the constitution to put a censor on the internet
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LegalizeWater is not online. LegalizeWater
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02 Dec 2012 12:00 AM
The US essentially owns the UN, doesn't it?

Not literally, as in having the UN under its title of course, but with money and the politics involved, isn't the US supposed to be the one actually running the show?
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sasuke987654321555 is not online. sasuke987654321555
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02 Dec 2012 12:02 AM
^correct
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MeGustaUganda is not online. MeGustaUganda
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02 Dec 2012 12:44 AM
But if that is true, then Palestine wouldn't get observer status.
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gamert7newalt3333 is not online. gamert7newalt3333
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02 Dec 2012 01:36 AM
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MeGustaUganda is not online. MeGustaUganda
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02 Dec 2012 08:23 AM
^Not true, the USA could have wanted that.

Who ever funds something really owns it,

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The USA didn't want that.

They clearly voted no, because I could count the negative votes on my fingers.
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mineraal is not online. mineraal
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02 Dec 2012 08:43 AM
As far as I know, no one country is benifiting from the U.N unless it's a war torn country. Because the U.N is made up of a bunch of country's. Also, I believe they wan't to censor the Internet to stop WW3 from happening because some one posted extremely inflamitory material(like innocence of muslims or something like that) I don't know about the constitutional amendment thing, but I don't think they would because all of our amendments protect some basic human right. Exept for guns. Those need much stricter regulations. Much stricter.
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MeGustaUganda is not online. MeGustaUganda
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02 Dec 2012 09:48 AM
You can't just ban the internet.

Countries have their independant domains.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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02 Dec 2012 10:49 AM
This talk happens every time usa notices they can't veto general assembly, and then it all fades away.
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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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02 Dec 2012 11:32 AM
The UN is a harmful entity to international sovereignty. Theoretically, any vote in the GA could pass with 18% of the global population's sponsorship.
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02 Dec 2012 12:32 PM
>The UN is a harmful entity to international sovereignty. Theoretically, any vote in the GA could pass with 18% of the global population's sponsorship.


So the electoral college is crap too right?


Also I agree, it should be proportional representation for democratic countries, and based on the average proportional, non democratic countries get a fixed vote.
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02 Dec 2012 01:21 PM
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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02 Dec 2012 01:27 PM
>working for a 1 world government

Why is this such an evil thing to so many?

Where would we be if the fairly did not want the tribe to be their government, or the tribe the city, the city the state and the state the nation?

In the Stone ages, that's for sure.

Unless you want the bathe the world in nuclear hellfire, it's an inevitability, and the sooner we do it the better and less painful in the long run.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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02 Dec 2012 01:27 PM
family not "fairly"
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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02 Dec 2012 01:35 PM
>With all of our freedoms.


Scientists can not operate effectively with a lack of large amount of funding only found in large groups.
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02 Dec 2012 03:33 PM
Knowledge would be.

The means to save this planet from an asteroid, too.
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02 Dec 2012 04:17 PM
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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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02 Dec 2012 04:53 PM
Any centralization power comes with the cost of freedom. How can one world government effectively rule of all of us and meet our needs effectively? Confederations ftw.

The electoral college isn't necessarily BS, the first past the post method is BS, and the electoral college system needs to be fixed a bit, but at least it allocates votes based on population.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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03 Dec 2012 07:16 AM
>Confederations

How about a global Confederation?
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MeGustaUganda is not online. MeGustaUganda
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03 Dec 2012 10:21 AM
Any centralization power comes with the cost of freedom. How can one world government effectively rule of all of us and meet our needs effectively? Confederations ftw.

The electoral college isn't necessarily BS, the first past the post method is BS, and the electoral college system needs to be fixed a bit, but at least it allocates votes based on population.


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USA is a federal country.

It works fine even with problems,

The problem I find tho with a worldwide goverment are nationalists.
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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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03 Dec 2012 10:40 AM
The US barely functions good human rights. US medicinal canabiscut dispensaries being raided anyone?
A global confederacy? No.
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mineraal is not online. mineraal
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03 Dec 2012 10:51 AM
If I may point something out, the U.N isn't a world goverment, it's a global peacekeeping force and medium for basic law and negotiation. And countries don't have to listen the the U.N.
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