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Re: Why [WIJ] Outpost Indigo Should Not Be Raided:

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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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27 Nov 2012 07:01 PM
WIJ Outpost Indigo has always been an unfair fort. WIJ have always had advantages to mask the fact that without benefits, they could not defend the objective from raiders.

Earlier today, roughly 8 of my men and I finished training. By no means are these soldiers weak, and they all demonstrate great skill in battle. We took a visit to the old WIJ Oupost Indigo to end, and what we saw floored us.

Two WIJ STs both with 40 additional (recharging, keep in mind) Health Points, wielding dual SKPs + Y14s. They were able to disarm the bomb against my soldiers, and myself within a short period of time.

Something wasn't quite right there. Skilled, trained, and perfected soldiers do not fall in an instant to 2 people, regardless of the opponent's par. While I assume they were both fairly good in combat without their benefits, that doesn't apply when they use them. Needless to say, much respect was lost.

When being called out for unfair play, they responded with snide remarks about our "lack of potential". Being a fair clan, who enjoys nothing more than fair battles, we departed the fort. Their moods were sarcastic, and pretentious. Again, that also lost some respect in our eyes.

I've come here to let you know that I feel (as well as many others) that raiding Outpost Indigo is a waste of time; so do yourself a favor, and steer clear of it.

I highly encourage WIJ to reconsider issuing their overpowered forcefields and weapons to shock troopers. It's by no means ethical, and only brings you down in the eyes of others. It does not set an example for low ranking members, or for potential members to come. It is a mistake, plain and simple.

BEE is against raiding unfair bases. We do not feel we need to go against people who would like to blatantly cheat to win.

A good comparison I thought of was this:

If you and a group of people are playing cards, and one person decides to draw as many as they please, and put back all the cards they don't like, you would have qualms about it, surely. That's not fair, right? No one cheats, because cheating is wrong, and spoils the game for everyone, regardless of what you are playing.

BEE will no longer be raiding WIJ bases until they can resolve this issue. It's not to be dismissed with a sarcastic response, or a "wow you can't beat WIJ how sad" kind of remark. This thread is open for discussion, just be mature, and think about what you're defending regardless of which side you are on in this debate.

Cheers,
-- Soybeen



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robloxianCEO is not online. robloxianCEO
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27 Nov 2012 07:01 PM
tl;dr
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chanomano is not online. chanomano
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27 Nov 2012 07:01 PM
No need to point out the obvious.

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Vixom is not online. Vixom
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27 Nov 2012 07:01 PM
owned
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Sharpshooter26 is not online. Sharpshooter26
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27 Nov 2012 07:03 PM
legit
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Materialization is not online. Materialization
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27 Nov 2012 07:05 PM
to short;didn't read
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HeatSucks111 is not online. HeatSucks111
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27 Nov 2012 07:05 PM
Your men aren't as good as they sound.
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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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27 Nov 2012 07:09 PM
As I said Heat, they are highly trained. It's not an opinionated matter. They excel in combat compared to most of the people you will find roaming C&G.

Try to do away with the flame.
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Vixom is not online. Vixom
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27 Nov 2012 07:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gutCFMc5khY
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dood97 is not online. dood97
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27 Nov 2012 07:10 PM
You don't get out of the Hive much, do you?
Well, those shields and weapons they get are rewards for their effort through th academy as a graduation gift.

Plus, your soldiers are NOT as good as you claim. If they had gotten killed that fast, then you are obviously lacking in skill as they teased you about. A group known as Civil, managed to raid Indigo, 117 times, losing only 10 times, and pretty much every single time they raided they were confronted by STs, (Shock Troopers) Yet they still carried on. So maybe the BEEs should worry less on battle, and go back to making honey until they are able to figure it out.

Also, the bomb is meant to be able to be defused, you can't just touch it and win, you actually have to defend the point for a good 80 seconds. SS most likely put that in there prevent scouting raiders to be able to take the fort just because they managed to slip behind enemy lines.

Now, I may have been blunt in this explanation, but there's no reason to sting me, I simply pointed out what's been going on since before your queen ordered you to construct your hive.
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grimy12 is not online. grimy12
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27 Nov 2012 07:11 PM
"WIJ Outpost Indigo has always been an unfair fort."

Implying forts should be fair for raiders. You have a way in if you have enough members for one, second you can stack over the wall.

~Grand Master
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chanomano is not online. chanomano
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27 Nov 2012 07:11 PM
Your puns and your logic is bad.

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dood97 is not online. dood97
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27 Nov 2012 07:13 PM
My logic is legit, plus, half the content in my post isn't my logic, it's SS's place, so it's his logic.

Any shut up, my puns are bee-autiful.
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dood97 is not online. dood97
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27 Nov 2012 07:13 PM
And*
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chanomano is not online. chanomano
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27 Nov 2012 07:13 PM
I don't believe you can make me 'shut up'.

Your logic isn't even logic, it's too riddled with horrible puns to even decipher what you're trying to say.

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SemiSh0x is not online. SemiSh0x
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27 Nov 2012 07:14 PM
Support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pRbSKj2zxY
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TRUSTnU is not online. TRUSTnU
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27 Nov 2012 07:16 PM
This really couldn't of been in a few sentences? Anyway, SS even said it wasn't fair himself in kne of his forums. And its not like people when they build their groups bases are going to work on fairness. They will give their group a few advantages because the leader lives their soldiers.

That was somewhat long for what I had to say.

~~~> TnU; The Red Aceran
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Vixom is not online. Vixom
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27 Nov 2012 07:16 PM
@semi

notice how in your video that most of the raiders suck at fighting
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SemiSh0x is not online. SemiSh0x
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27 Nov 2012 07:18 PM
@Vixom

We were leading a Cives group.
They are new comers.
-Ravens would beat you in 1v1 fights allday anyday.

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dood97 is not online. dood97
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27 Nov 2012 07:18 PM
If you can't "decipher" what I am trying to say, then you must have trouble concentrating.

I never tried to make you shut up, that was a quote combined with a pun, just in case you couldn't "decipher" that.

Lastly, I don't care what you opinion is of my posts, because I do what the hell I want, so sorry if my terrible writing skill makes your brain hurt, but you're just gonna have to get over it, because you're dealing with a person who sees your word's value as completely worthless.
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Soybeen is not online. Soybeen
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27 Nov 2012 07:18 PM
Dood97,

Feedback's appreciated. More insults are not.

You have not seen my clan in action. We raid other clans aside from WIJ, such as FEAR, TRA, and on occasion JC. Those battles are simple, and we win them just as often as you claim that other clan won against WIJ.

If you have not heard of us, don't make comments about us. If you would like make a comment on our skill level, you must first actually know what that skill level is.

On that other note, if my members and I were "rewarded" for having high skill, we would not be complaining. It's a very one sided system in favor of WIJ, and that is a fact, not an opinion.
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Vixom is not online. Vixom
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27 Nov 2012 07:19 PM
@semi

why the hell are you raiding an "unfair" base with mostly "newcomers"?

and unfortunately the people in the main group suck too



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SemiSh0x is not online. SemiSh0x
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27 Nov 2012 07:20 PM
dood97 got owned.
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SemiSh0x is not online. SemiSh0x
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27 Nov 2012 07:20 PM
@vixom
Because we have to train our recruits. I'm sure you do to.
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chanomano is not online. chanomano
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27 Nov 2012 07:21 PM
I'm actually not concentrating much right now, since it's quite easy to put up a fine argument on C&G, where very few intelligent people roam.

If you don't care about my opinion, then why do you continue to argue about it?

On that note, why should I mind if you don't care about my words? The only reason I'm posting this is for humor and comedy, which is definitely what I'm getting.

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