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Re: Comparing Karl Marx and Thomas Jefferson

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darkfire261 is not online. darkfire261
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23 Nov 2012 05:43 PM
Karl Marx's philospophy stated all people are equal and should have the same stuff, same pay, etc (communism) He also believed that people should have social services provided by the Government (socialism)

Thomas Jefferson's philospophy is the base of the Republician party. He believed that the people come first, then the government. Also he believed that Intelligence is the key to a better society, so education felt like a necessity to him. He believes that all businesses have a chance if not bombarded by regulations and limits (Capitalism)


So, which person do you agree with? Karl Marx or Thomas Jefferson?
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mangostreak is not online. mangostreak
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23 Nov 2012 05:46 PM
He believes that all businesses have a chance if not bombarded by regulations and limits (Capitalism) and He also believed that people should have social services provided by the Government (socialism)
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these are the only two explicit differences between the two, otherwise they agree on what you put up.
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darkfire261 is not online. darkfire261
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23 Nov 2012 05:47 PM
@mango Basically, Marx WAS a socialist/communist while jefferson was a capitalist.
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Raximus is not online. Raximus
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23 Nov 2012 05:59 PM
Jefferson
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megaluigi34 is not online. megaluigi34
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23 Nov 2012 06:05 PM
Thomas Jefferson!
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darkfire261 is not online. darkfire261
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23 Nov 2012 06:07 PM
Obviously quite a bit of WWC believes in the pricipalities of Thomas Jefferson.
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23 Nov 2012 06:38 PM
I thought it was like 50% Locke fanboys and 50% Hobbes fanboys.
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Raximus is not online. Raximus
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23 Nov 2012 06:51 PM
No? Not everything is so black and white...
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MahPizzaIsHere is not online. MahPizzaIsHere
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23 Nov 2012 08:31 PM
He also believed that people should have social services provided by the Government (socialism)

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get out, said Keynes
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23 Nov 2012 10:11 PM
You did a really bad job at comparing them with equal understanding. Look at the difference this comparison makes:

-Apples are grown abundantly on trees. They have naturally sweet flavors and help boost the immune system.

-Chocolate is full of sugar and can damage your metabolism. It is also has been proven to cause insulin spikes.

Both of those statements are completely true. Apples appear to be in the lead. Now, consider these next statements.

-Apple seeds contain small amounts of cyanide, which is poisonous to humans. Too many apples can also cause blood sugar issues.

-Chocolate contains many antioxidants that help protect the body from aging. It can also decrease the risk of heart disease and increase your lifespan.

Strangely enough, both of those statements are true, as well. However, the biased spin is making chocolate look better.
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24 Nov 2012 12:21 AM
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24 Nov 2012 12:25 AM
Karl Marx.
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24 Nov 2012 01:25 AM
I go with Marx. Capitalism is failing, as anyone with half a brain can see (Wall St. crashing, fiscal cliff, 2008 stock crash, Great Depression, etc etc)
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No, all those situations, if you look at them, were caused by cronyism and protectionism. The free market, when tampered with, will bite back.

And I bet all you Karl Marx fanbois don't even know much about him or read his works, with the exception of Magno.
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24 Nov 2012 03:30 AM
Thomas Jefferson
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24 Nov 2012 04:14 AM
Neither is too appealing.
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pepper0 is not online. pepper0
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24 Nov 2012 06:39 AM
Despite the fact that Jefferson was close to being an anarchist, during his presidency he expanded government power.
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mangostreak is not online. mangostreak
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24 Nov 2012 12:40 PM
And I bet all you Karl Marx fanbois don't even know much about him or read his works, with the exception of Magno.
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i love you toooooo! :):)::::))

Despite the fact that Jefferson was close to being an anarchist, during his presidency he expanded government power.
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he was not an anarchist, look past the name and into the theory like i did, and by that i mean read "What is Anarchism?" or "Fields, Factories, and Workshops", or "Le Conquit du Pain".
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24 Nov 2012 02:46 PM
Obviously quite a bit of WWC believes in the pricipalities of Jefferson

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I didn't know Jefferson had any principalities.
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24 Nov 2012 06:01 PM
You have nothing to lose but your chains!
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PWNZERKNIT is not online. PWNZERKNIT
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24 Nov 2012 06:38 PM
I go with Marx. Capitalism is failing, as anyone with half a brain can see (Wall St. crashing, fiscal cliff, 2008 stock crash, Great Depression, etc etc)
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You cant go with marx either.
Communism failed in the first decade

Democratic capitalism is designed to be re banged every 200 years.

All democratic governments degrade and must be cleaned from time to time.

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PWNZERKNIT is not online. PWNZERKNIT
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24 Nov 2012 06:42 PM
please do listen to the philosophers that invented practicle modern democracy.

Alexis de Tocqueville
Voltaire
Benjamin Franklin
Thomas Jefferson
Abunch of french philosophers...
ETC ETC ETC ETC ETC
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24 Nov 2012 11:06 PM
Hittlllaaaaaarrrrrrrr

jk

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darkfire261 is not online. darkfire261
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25 Nov 2012 06:47 PM
@pwn French DID modernize democracy, but did they modernize capitalism?
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BloodThirstyGuest is not online. BloodThirstyGuest
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25 Nov 2012 07:00 PM
@pwn French DID modernize democracy, but did they modernize capitalism?
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You cannot have one without the other.

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