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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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19 Nov 2012 03:45 PM
"The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Karl Marx"
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19 Nov 2012 04:43 PM
Not that much of a suprise
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jbg23 is not online. jbg23
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19 Nov 2012 04:51 PM
American would do a 360.
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jbg23 is not online. jbg23
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19 Nov 2012 04:52 PM
*America
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19 Nov 2012 04:52 PM
I would find something to impeach him for.
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19 Nov 2012 04:57 PM
Maybe he's violated the tenure of office act.
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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19 Nov 2012 05:04 PM
So How comes it's OK for Paul Ryan to say:

"The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand" Like he really did?
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thepit44 is not online. thepit44
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19 Nov 2012 05:12 PM
Maybe because Ayn Rand is not a communist and communism is frowned upon in America?
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19 Nov 2012 05:27 PM
So in the 1850s South, it would be unconstitutional to proclaim that your guiding influence was Harriet Beecher Stowe?
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ChocolateMocha is not online. ChocolateMocha
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19 Nov 2012 05:57 PM
Ayn Rand didn't cause violent revolutions
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jbg23 is not online. jbg23
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19 Nov 2012 08:28 PM
Lies, said Ron Paul.
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Twigs180 is not online. Twigs180
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19 Nov 2012 10:46 PM
Because Ayn Rand's teaching don't create conflict in Africa, Asia, Europe, and the Americas?
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20 Nov 2012 05:39 AM
Karl Marx best Juice of all time.

 - Tahya Falasteeni intifāḍa!
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The0Arctic0Fox is not online. The0Arctic0Fox
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20 Nov 2012 06:38 AM
Ayn Ran is the ring wing equalvilent of marx.


It took 70 or so years for Communism to cause trouble, the same should be siad for Randism.

However if both statemetns do not cause equal anger in a people, then you admit the politica "centre" of given people is way to left or right.
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21 Nov 2012 10:51 AM
Ayn Ran is the ring wing equalvilent of marx.
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Again, no. I would consider Milton Freidman or Murray Rothbard to be the Karl Marx of Libertarianism. She is like a Mao or a Lenin. She has her followers, but she is by no means one of the most beloved figures in Libertarianism.


It took 70 or so years for Communism to cause trouble, the same should be siad for Randism.
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Ayn Rand did not call for a revolution. Karl Marx did. And even then, the ideas of Marxism failed to spread due to its suppression, and it appealing to most illiterate workers. And even then his ideas were not taking seriously by the peasants, only academics as a new way of looking at history and economics via analytical assessment. However, Rand wrote during a time of mass information, with the radio, TV, etc. She also did not call for a revolution.

However if both statemetns do not cause equal anger in a people, then you admit the politica "centre" of given people is way to left or right.
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What?
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jbg23 is not online. jbg23
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21 Nov 2012 07:15 PM
I would consider Milton Freidman or Murray Rothbard to be the Karl Marx of Libertarianism.

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Eh... I would disagree on Milton...

You can only go so far right if you're a capitalist; there's a point reasonably close to the center where it's not even capitalism anymore.
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21 Nov 2012 08:01 PM
@twigs

no wars, yes

but conflict it has created
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