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Re: Skyrim's Combat: OHHH MYYY GOOOOOOOD

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spriteman122 is not online. spriteman122
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18 Nov 2012 04:36 AM
Seriously Bethseda, this is a problem. Let me elaborate


Having not played previous Elder Scrolls games, i thought Skyrim would make a nice start, and it did, the story line is amazing, the side quests are amazing, and the world is immersive, one problem though: Melee combat

How is this a problem? Using a bow or magic feels fine, but Melee feels slow and clunky and has NO skill involved, it is just a hack fest, seriously, Playing on a pc, was felt really weird, everytime i went to swing i would turn to actually hit the enemy, so i don't know what im hitting because i cant see!, BUT WAIT THERES MORE


so i went back to play oblivion, the combat flows smoothly and nicely and generally felt better


Opinions?
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Scar9002 is not online. Scar9002
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18 Nov 2012 04:42 AM
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spriteman122 is not online. spriteman122
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18 Nov 2012 04:43 AM
@scar

wat
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TurboMonkey25 is not online. TurboMonkey25
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18 Nov 2012 04:44 AM
i haven't played other tes games

i thought skyrim's combat was like the rest

it is slow and chunky
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spriteman122 is not online. spriteman122
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18 Nov 2012 04:46 AM
@Turbo

So did i, but having testing out Fallout's combat (one of Bethseda's other flagship games) and Oblivion i couldn't help but feel they were being lazy here
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bebithetufflealt is not online. bebithetufflealt
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18 Nov 2012 08:20 AM
Get dark messiah of might and magic
Amazing combat.
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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18 Nov 2012 02:13 PM
Morrowind's combat is worse, your chance to hit the enemy is determined by die rolls, the outcome of which are determined by your attributes, skills, and Fatigue.

STEALTH FTW!
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Guarranteed is not online. Guarranteed
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18 Nov 2012 02:16 PM
Oblivions Combat was definitely better than Morrowind, but Morrowind is an overall better game than Oblivion.
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TurboMonkey25 is not online. TurboMonkey25
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18 Nov 2012 02:19 PM
skyrim is still fun though
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Guarranteed is not online. Guarranteed
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18 Nov 2012 02:21 PM
If you played the other TES games, it lost a lot of its complex RPG parts that made it so famous.
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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18 Nov 2012 02:22 PM
>the story line is amazing, the side quests are amazing, and the world is immersive

I take it this is your first video game, none of that is true.

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Guarranteed is not online. Guarranteed
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18 Nov 2012 02:26 PM
The story line is awful, the final boss battle is horrid.

The world looks beautiful though.
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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18 Nov 2012 02:27 PM
>The world looks beautiful

grey, grey, grey, oh look some brown, grey, grey, oh look some blurry textures, grey grey oh some low-res water

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Guarranteed is not online. Guarranteed
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18 Nov 2012 02:28 PM
It looks nice, it will definitely stand out in my books.
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spriteman122 is not online. spriteman122
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18 Nov 2012 02:33 PM
Stop being so condecending man, and stop green texting like we're on /v/

Just because YOU didn't have the same take on skyrim doesn't make you think its the first game i ever played
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purepker219 is not online. purepker219
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18 Nov 2012 02:54 PM
Elder Scrolls combat feels bit dull, and I hope they change, or revolutionize the combat system when Elder Scrolls Online comes out.

In my opinion, Mount & Blade: Warband combat was better, as you had directional swings, other than mashing the attack button.

But to add to that, the Directional Swing thing was good when it was just a sword vs sword thing. No shields involved, as they just blocked everything.
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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18 Nov 2012 03:14 PM
>quoting automatically means i'm pretending like this is /v/

lol if that's your defensive argument why are you even trying? the story is objectively garbage

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spriteman122 is not online. spriteman122
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18 Nov 2012 03:15 PM
like I said, everyone has a different take on it
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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18 Nov 2012 03:16 PM
if you have the observation skills of a dead animal maybe, it's riddled with plotholes.

>You find out you're part dragon and have to kill a static, moustache-twirling dragon. It isn't that I want development out of a non-sentient being, but take this into consideration;
>He fails to hurt, kill, turn, or subdue any important character throughout the game
>He fails to do anything about the main character learning the Dragonrend shout despite clearly knowing he is doing so since he ambushes him immediately afterwards
>He destroys one tiny little Imperial town that is largely insignificant to the game, he does nothing to aggravate anyone in the game from this point on.
>His dragons are all weak and disorganized
>He faces us only after we gain the ability to defeat him
>He is betrayed by his brother and his second in command one after another.
>His goals contradict each other. He is the "world eater" and also has articulated his plan to enslave humanity.
>He is the greatest and oldest dragon in existence but he has less shouts than other dragons of a same or lesser level


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spriteman122 is not online. spriteman122
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18 Nov 2012 03:20 PM
Holy..


So the combat is bad, and the story too? wow.. dang what an eye opener

I never really noticed because i was caught up in the LOL DRAGONS


But the dark brother hood was aweomse
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DragonOfTime is not online. DragonOfTime
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18 Nov 2012 03:31 PM
'grey, grey, grey, oh look some brown, grey, grey, oh look some blurry textures, grey grey oh some low-res water'

around riften: pretty autumn scenery (also bears but that's irrelevant)
north of windhelm: huge icebergs and cool aurora night sky (not sure exactly how to describe it but it's fairly different to, say, winterhold or dawnstar)
south of whiterun: geothermal pools and i don't need to say any more on the subject
around markarth: steep peaks and sweet waterfalls, also a ton of dwemer stuff
around whiterun: wide-open rolling green hills
around morthal: marshlands which admittedly i'm not a fan of but oh well
around falkreath: pine forests i guess? it's still different from every other area in skyrim

yep everything looks exactly the same
also what did you expect from a western fantasy RPG, flashing neon signs dotting the entire world map?


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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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18 Nov 2012 03:32 PM
Oblivion was colorful, drofti. Even Morrowind had more color and it was supposed to be brown and bloom.

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DragonOfTime is not online. DragonOfTime
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18 Nov 2012 03:34 PM
breaking news: colour is not directly proportional to how good a game looks
in fact graphics in general aren't directly proportional to how good a game looks

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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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18 Nov 2012 03:36 PM
i didn't say skyrim doesn't look different, i said it has a horrendously small color pallet and blurry textures.

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DragonOfTime is not online. DragonOfTime
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18 Nov 2012 03:43 PM
blurry textures shouldn't really matter unless they're impossible to make out (which they aren't)

also dull colors aren't exactly the end of the world either

it's still a great looking game and in my opinion skyrim is VASTLY superior to cyrodil in terms of looks even if your opinion is different

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