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Re: Problems with new chat

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idontkno is not online. idontkno
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14 Nov 2012 04:19 PM
1) Readability - If you want to avoid the grey backing, use text stroke. white for dark colored names and black for light colored names. And for the actual chat text a black stroke around the white text. It's very difficult to read when the text or name matches the color behind it.

2) Team chat - It works, but does not have the "(TEAM)" Label. Without this, you don't know when people who spoke on your team chatted to everyone or to their team only.

3) Length before cut-off - After only about 8-10 words or so, the gui cuts off your chat. That's a ridiculously low amount of words you can say at once.

4) Sometimes I've notice people's chat's say nothing at all, for example, "idontkno: " is all that appear in chat. Not sure how or why it happens.

5) New lines get's cut off in chat. Don't know if that's entirely clear, so I'll give example. If I paste a script into the chat using admin commands to run a script, only line 1 of the script appears in the chat.

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I like the new fade effect on chat instead of just disappearing or reappearing. And I'm really looking forward to the scroll bar that's on it's way that sorcus mentioned. The UI update on backpack isn't terrible either, I like it.

But yeah, chat really needs more work still. You released it once and it failed, and now you released it again and it still isn't that good.
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Prehistoricman is not online. Prehistoricman
Joined: 20 Sep 2008
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14 Nov 2012 04:29 PM
+1 complaints about the chat post.
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jode6543 is not online. jode6543
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14 Nov 2012 04:43 PM
"4) Sometimes I've notice people's chat's say nothing at all, for example, "idontkno: " is all that appear in chat. Not sure how or why it happens."
That is because they said a "bad word". For example, nerd. Butt. Crap. All are censored.

[[There is no place like ~]]
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Prehistoricman is not online. Prehistoricman
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14 Nov 2012 04:45 PM
@2

I don't believe there is a Lua API to detect team chat so that would be why it isn't there.

I do agree with all of your post though. Most of Roblox's features are half-baked.
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idontkno is not online. idontkno
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14 Nov 2012 04:51 PM
@jode If that's the case, the chat should just not show up at all instead of their name still showing up. That's how it used to be.

@pre what??? The chat currently works to team chat, if i say % in front of what I type, only my team sees it. They just don't have it so it says "idontkno(TEAM): hi" like it used to when you team-chatted. Now it just looks the same as if you didn't team chat, so your team won't know if you team chatted or not.
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Prehistoricman is not online. Prehistoricman
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14 Nov 2012 04:54 PM
I know the team chat works, that is hard coded in, behind all the Lua stuff. I was saying Sorcus can't get the team chat to say it was a team chat because there is no event or anything telling his code it was a team chat.
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Sorcus is not online. Sorcus
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14 Nov 2012 05:01 PM
Chat cuts off? It wraps around for me? Upto 3 lines.

~Sorcus
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jode6543 is not online. jode6543
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14 Nov 2012 05:02 PM
@Sorcus A screenshot from my friend when he discovered the problem:
prntscr / jq48s

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idontkno is not online. idontkno
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14 Nov 2012 05:14 PM
Hmm, interesting. Well It doesn't wrap for me. The first time this released it wrapped for me (But kind of failed at doing so), but now this second time around it doesn't wrap for me at all, and simply cuts off after the length of about 8-10 words.
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idontkno is not online. idontkno
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14 Nov 2012 05:21 PM
Oh and sorcus, do you plan on doing something to increase readability? It would be really nice... Same goes for have the (TEAM) tag in chat. It's kind of helpful to know who your team mates are chatting to; If it's to everyone or their team. And yeah, definitely need to look into the fact that apparently for some people it cuts off.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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14 Nov 2012 06:02 PM
It's hilarious how half of your problems aren't even true.

"2) Team chat - It works, but does not have the "(TEAM)" Label. Without this, you don't know when people who spoke on your team chatted to everyone or to their team only."

I tested it in-game. Right now. And it does have a (TEAM) label.

"3) Length before cut-off - After only about 8-10 words or so, the gui cuts off your chat. That's a ridiculously low amount of words you can say at once."

I tested it in-game. Right now. It wraps for up to 3 lines, and I am able to put about 75 words on that.
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Sorcus is not online. Sorcus
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14 Nov 2012 06:15 PM
Julien, he is actually correct on 2. Since the chat control on PC is coming from the engine I don't handle the addition of (TEAM) tag. Since you are on a mac it will work well.

~Sorcus
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idontkno is not online. idontkno
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14 Nov 2012 06:57 PM
@Julien dude, different platforms and/or computers, screen resolutions, etc, will have possible different outcomes if not accounted for. You can't assume that what's true for one person true for another.

And sorcus, are you telling me PC users are going to be stuck without the TEAM tag? Seems kinda ridiculous. And it definitely does not wrap for me, but isntead simply cuts somewhere between 20 and 30 characters and it really frustrates me because I miss half of what people say.
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geicogeko is not online. geicogeko
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14 Nov 2012 06:59 PM
Mac user here, team worked for me, at least when I talked.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
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14 Nov 2012 07:50 PM
Is Sorcus working alone on this project? :3

- thedestroyer115
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ArceusInator is not online. ArceusInator
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14 Nov 2012 07:51 PM
Yes because everyone else tried to kill it with fire.
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Sorcus is not online. Sorcus
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14 Nov 2012 07:51 PM
Phoenix bruh Phoenix.

~Sorcus
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Quenty is not online. Quenty
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14 Nov 2012 08:14 PM
I think the negative here out weights the positive of this GUI update.
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JediShane is not online. JediShane
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14 Nov 2012 08:29 PM
It cuts me off at only 4 words.

And after innocently playing a game for an hour, my chat GUI completely dissapeared.
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NB3 is not online. NB3
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14 Nov 2012 08:30 PM
"4) Sometimes I've notice people's chat's say nothing at all, for example, "idontkno: " is all that appear in chat. Not sure how or why it happens."

Or players have tabed the chat bar, and pressed enter.
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Quenty is not online. Quenty
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14 Nov 2012 08:45 PM
Google Short link: gqmWf

Glitches FTW.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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14 Nov 2012 10:30 PM
"Julien, he is actually correct on 2. Since the chat control on PC is coming from the engine I don't handle the addition of (TEAM) tag. Since you are on a mac it will work well."

Oh...

Ok, fine, but the other one was still wrong!
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coollegokid is not online. coollegokid
Joined: 07 Apr 2010
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15 Nov 2012 01:08 PM
I have problems when I can't see anything I typed and entered, neither can I see other peoples.
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thedestroyer115 is not online. thedestroyer115
Joined: 19 Dec 2010
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15 Nov 2012 01:27 PM
Thats because troll Sorcus removed the background to flame not only the scripting community but Roblox entirely.

Great.

- thedestroyer115
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SecretAmmo is not online. SecretAmmo
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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15 Nov 2012 02:02 PM
I had a problem with the chat, when I resized the client, the chat stopped to work, you could see players chatting seeing bubble only, after that I came back to full screen and every messages wrote appeared in one line. The same thing happened when the client was on the background. I don't know why it did that. I'll try to take a screenshot if it does that again.
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