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Re: Place creation vs. Forum Join Date

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Uuvinu is not online. Uuvinu
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11 Nov 2012 12:41 PM
I am wanting to make a robot that will find the first 2012 account. To do this, I'd ideally need to check the join date of multiple user's games. This can be achieved by looking at the creation date of their first place.

However, is the place creation accuracy less than that of the forum's join date?
Would the first ID to have a 1/1/2012 place creation date really be the first by ROBLOX's time standards? :O
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NVI is not online. NVI
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11 Nov 2012 12:44 PM
The first ID to have a 1/1/2012 place creation date could be a much older user that happened to create a place on that day.
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Uuvinu is not online. Uuvinu
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11 Nov 2012 12:45 PM
I am only looking to find the first '12er. xD
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Uuvinu is not online. Uuvinu
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11 Nov 2012 12:46 PM
Oh oh I see what you're saying. (next time I should actually read instead of skipping words?)
Well... I do get that but it's not likely.
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Veldahar is not online. Veldahar
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11 Nov 2012 01:01 PM
You can simply find the oldest place.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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11 Nov 2012 02:11 PM
There is no such thing as the first account created in 2012 because there is no such thing as an exact moment where the current year became 2012.

Time zones exist, you know.
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Uuvinu is not online. Uuvinu
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11 Nov 2012 02:25 PM
Ahh, Julien, always being so literal. -.-'

I meant central time.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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11 Nov 2012 02:53 PM
@Uuvinu

There is no such thing as central time... well, unless you consider UTC as central...
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Quenty is not online. Quenty
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11 Nov 2012 03:00 PM
Don't go by central time. Go by ROBLOX's server time. Which, I'm guessing, is pacific time (Silicon valley).

I personally would say that you're going to be hard pressed to find that user, as the user in question is probably "several" users, all created about the same millisecond. A lack of more accurate information probably will be your problem. The best way to do it, is start at a user ID fairly close to January 2nd, and subtract 1 each time. For each user, go through every single place they own, and find the oldest one. Repeat until you get to a user where their oldest place is 2011, then add 1 to the user ID.

That's your first 2012 user.
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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11 Nov 2012 03:07 PM
@Quenty

ROBLOX doesn't have a server time, unfortunately.

Comments have a certain time, groups have another and the forum yet has another...
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JulienDethurens is not online. JulienDethurens
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11 Nov 2012 03:07 PM
Oh, not to mention that www1.roblox.com, www2.roblox.com, www3.roblox.com, etc also each have their own time...
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Quenty is not online. Quenty
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11 Nov 2012 03:18 PM
So their server's aren't set to a specific time?

Ahh... well...
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Seranok is not online. Seranok
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11 Nov 2012 03:20 PM
Use a binary search algorithm until you find the first place created in 2012. Then complete the search manually.
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SCARFACIAL is not online. SCARFACIAL
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11 Nov 2012 03:35 PM
So tell me again how you plan to go back in time to create said account? :3
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lah30303 is not online. lah30303
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11 Nov 2012 04:55 PM
What if they deleted their place?
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Uuvinu is not online. Uuvinu
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11 Nov 2012 05:50 PM
@lah

You cannot 'delete' a place?
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lah30303 is not online. lah30303
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11 Nov 2012 06:13 PM
Oh, I always thought you could.
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Quenty is not online. Quenty
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11 Nov 2012 06:22 PM
You can using a hack. But I think only a few people have ever done this, so it shouldn't effect his search.
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Legend26 is not online. Legend26
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11 Nov 2012 07:06 PM
First place created in 2012 according to creation date on site: http://www.roblox.com/Like-a-boss-place?id=69059900
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Uuvinu is not online. Uuvinu
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11 Nov 2012 07:07 PM
@legend

Yeah, I know that already. I just want to programatically find it.
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belial52 is not online. belial52
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11 Nov 2012 07:08 PM
I thought most of roblox ran off of UTC, or whatever the -6:00 is.
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Seranok is not online. Seranok
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11 Nov 2012 07:31 PM
Can someone substantiate this rumor that it is/was possible to delete a place?
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belial52 is not online. belial52
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11 Nov 2012 07:32 PM
@Seranok, Nope, you could only ever make it inactive. At least as far back as I remember.
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ArceusInator is not online. ArceusInator
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11 Nov 2012 07:37 PM
You can't delete any assets, can you? Why do people think places are an exception?
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belial52 is not online. belial52
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11 Nov 2012 07:39 PM
@Arceus, Because Zippos are cool.
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