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| 06 Nov 2012 10:35 PM |
| Theoretically speaking, if we are still in the same state as we are now, you couldn't blame Bush to much for the bad economy because Obama had the exact amount of time to reverse the issue, right? |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:38 PM |
Bush was a terrible president imo. His father had a great mind, but W. Bush was a joke. Waste of 8 years.
I mean, look at him. He raised our gas prices, got us somewhere bigger into debt, had a poor response to every Hurricane NOT Katrina (even though Katrina was devastating, god bless the victims), killed Saddam Hussein for no direct reason (which technically is a war crime, even as much I hated Saddam's guts), and, most of all, had a late reaction to 9/11. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:38 PM |
Honestly the ruin we are in now can all go back to Clinton. He made it so just about anyone could buy a house. Even people without the money. So people bought the houses with the intent to resell, no one wanted to buy them, the people who bought the houses couldn't pay off loans, which caused banks to collapse, which caused the stock market to crash.
Domino effect |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:39 PM |
"killed Saddam Hussein for no direct reason"
lol |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:40 PM |
Give a legitimate reason why we went to Iraq and killed Saddam.
He had nothing to do with 9/11 or the African embassy bombings, even though he had linked affiliations to al-Qaeda.
He didn't pose any threat to the U.S. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:41 PM |
| Neither of you guys answered the question; answer it now please. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:41 PM |
Even though I'm more leaning Liberal, I can say Clinton was a worse president than Bush.
Both had their ups-and-downs, but Clinton was a little worse.
And Bush was pretty damn bad. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:42 PM |
Saddam Hussein killed thousands of Kurds for no damn reason. Isn't that a war crime?
To answer the question: Bush was never to blame. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:44 PM |
| Answer the question directly with either yes or no. Mine would be yes. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:45 PM |
Yes, but why didn't America kill him back in the early 90's in the Gulf War? Why wait til the mid-2000's?
And yes, he did commit war crimes by killing Kurds and spraying chemical gases on Iranians (I'm part-Iranian on my dad's side, that's why I hate Saddam's guts) and Kurds.
But in the 2000's, it makes a lot less sense to do such a thing. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:46 PM |
Yes. You are very much correct.
What makes it even more embarrassing is that Obama added like $7 trillion in four years. Bush added $5 trillion in eight. (not saying thats good on bush, no debt is good debt) |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:48 PM |
Yes, but why didn't America kill him back in the early 90's in the Gulf War? Why wait til the mid-2000's?
Well partly because Clinton was a pansy. Other part because Americans weren't involved (think of 9/11 as Pearl Harbor. They attacked us. We just gonna sit there?) |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:49 PM |
| Glad to see another Republican lol. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:50 PM |
Clinton was a pansy, yes.
But that still shows that Americans don't care about the Kurds, Kuwaitis, Iranians, Syrians, Israelis, and even all Shias being literally bullied over there. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:50 PM |
| I'm very in the middle, truthfully. My big issue is the economy, so I voted for Romney. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:51 PM |
My big issue is warfare in the Middle East, health, and education
So that's why I voted for Obama |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:52 PM |
| No because Clinton also was a cause of it. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:53 PM |
"Clinton was a pansy, yes.
But that still shows that Americans don't care about the Kurds, Kuwaitis, Iranians, Syrians, Israelis, and even all Shias being literally bullied over there."
Romney said he'd help out in Syria. Truthfully, I don't know much about what's going on in the middle east. I'd rather stay out. If we are dragged in (which means an attack on the USA or Israel), Obama will intervene. It sucks but it's kinda how it is.
It's a constant balance of, do we step in and risk American lives (Vietnam) for a fight that isn't ours, or do we wait until an ally or ourselves is attacked. |
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| 06 Nov 2012 10:58 PM |
As someone said (forgot who):
"We shouldn't help in Syria. We should let them fight to the death. Whatever government they have will be a dictatorship anyway."
And either president would step in stair...
I mean, if NATO's going to war, hell, the USA always has a military team over there, whether it's 100 men or 100,000 men. |
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| 07 Nov 2012 10:14 AM |
| Extemmas, the polls ask who do you blame more for the economy, ( Bush or Obama), not Clinton. So read my post with that prospective. |
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| 07 Nov 2012 10:20 AM |
| You know in like... 10-20 years or so, theres gonna be a huge war between Israel and Syria, with U.S. Supporting Israel and Russia supporting Syria. |
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| 07 Nov 2012 03:03 PM |
Bush.
Obama had almost nothing to do with the economy.
It went down in 08 when bush was in office and then when Obama came in has slowly improved. |
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