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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
Joined: 05 Jul 2012
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28 Oct 2012 08:47 PM
>Writing

The writing is lackluster in every aspect. You find out you're part dragon and have to kill a static, moustache-twirling dragon. It isn't that I want development out of a non-sentient being, but take this into consideration;
>He fails to hurt, kill, turn, or subdue any important character throughout the game
>He fails to do anything about the main character learning the Dragonrend shout despite clearly knowing he is doing so since he ambushes him immediately afterwards
>He destroys one tiny little Imperial town that is largely insignificant to the game, he does nothing to aggravate anyone in the game from this point on.
>His dragons are all weak and disorganized
>He faces us only after we gain the ability to defeat him
>He is betrayed by his brother and his second in command one after another.
>His goals contradict each other. He is the "world eater" and also has articulated his plan to enslave humanity.
>He is the greatest and oldest dragon in existence but he has less shouts than other dragons of a same or lesser level

>Guilds
Ignoring the garbage storylines, the pacing is horrible. You can literally become the guildmaster of every guild in a day of gameplay except for debateably the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild because of the large number of fetch quests. After becoming the guildmaster of literally everything, guards still say thing like "Oh, so you're the new member of the Companions? What do you do, fetch the mead?" after being widely known as the new leader.

>Music
The music is almost non existent if you don't listen for it, it's low-profile heavy percussion and chanting that feels very repetetive.

>Variety in Items
There are only 9 types of weapons in Skyrim and two types of armor compared to Morrowind's 17 and 3 respectively. All one handed weapons in Skyrim feel the same except for the dagger, and all two handers feel the same as well.

>Level scaling
Skyrim has level scaling, which kills off any and all feeling of progression throughout the game, the enemies you kill will always be as strong asa you.

>Stats [or lack thereof]
Skyrim did away with attributes and a lot of stats, so there is no customizing your levelups. The only sense of progression since there is level scaling as well comes from how cool your armor is. Also, a plate-adorned warrior with a sword and shield can become the arch mage, the thieves guildmaster, and the dark brotherhood listener without changing a thing in their loadout.

>Dungeons
Skyrim's dungeons are very linear and the only ones that aren't are unrewarding and typically only loop back to the exit. The only exception is Blackreach.

>Cities
Skyrim's "Imperial City" has a grand total of ten [eleven?] structures with little to nothing interesting interesting about them. Oblivion's smallest city had at least twenty [Bravil iirc]

>Skill imbalance
If you intend on using Smithing, Enchanting, and/or Alchemy your game will be considerably easier because of how easy it is to exploit them to make god-tier armor at a very low level.

I'll add onto this as time goes on.
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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28 Oct 2012 08:51 PM
>Dragons
The dragons you encounter are a joke at level 10, they do little damage to a steel armor clad sword and board warrior and are downed in less than a minute if you and a companion are using archery. Exponentially less so if you downloaded an unlimited companion mod like a non-idiot and have a small army at your back.
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NickRogerz is not online. NickRogerz
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28 Oct 2012 08:52 PM
"Oblivion" Will always be the best "Dragon Age".
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NickRogerz is not online. NickRogerz
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28 Oct 2012 08:55 PM
Sorry, I meant *the best "Call of Duty".
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w63995 is not online. w63995
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28 Oct 2012 08:55 PM
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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28 Oct 2012 09:07 PM
>and master mode

what
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SKULLMANDER is not online. SKULLMANDER
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28 Oct 2012 09:11 PM
I think the closest bethesda has gotten to an amazing RPG is fallout 3.
I didn't get to play much of it, but I like the game and it has a feel not many other RPGs have. It does not have too many choices and it is difficult at low levels (like every other bethesda game) but I still wish to play it more often.

I like it more than skyrim, and I played skyrim first.
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SKULLMANDER is not online. SKULLMANDER
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28 Oct 2012 09:14 PM
Not saying that oblivion isn't an amazing RPG. Oblivion is as good as fallout 3.
Morrowind was too difficult and had too many confusing mechanics, but it was nice.
FNV was glitchy (yet again, like every other bethesda game) and a bit smaller than fallout 3. I still think it is decent though. But don't tell me about the Dead Money DLC again please.
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GeckoFPS is not online. GeckoFPS
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28 Oct 2012 09:24 PM
Skyrim is a great game? Why? Because I have fun, which is the whole point. You don't need to have super large cities to have fun and you don't have to pay attention to the storyline to have fun.

" The music is almost non existent if you don't listen for it, it's low-profile heavy percussion and chanting that feels very repetetive. "

Yet it has some of the most beautiful soundtracks I have ever heard.
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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28 Oct 2012 09:49 PM
play morrowind or oblivion and if you don't have more fun i'll be seriously surprised, they're objectively better than skyrim
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iguanazor is not online. iguanazor
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28 Oct 2012 10:29 PM
All you established is that previous Elder Scrolls are better, not that Skyrim is a horrible game

Please stay consistent in your argument
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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01 Nov 2012 07:43 PM
>All you established is that previous Elder Scrolls are better, not that Skyrim is a horrible game

Did you even read my post?
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iguanazor is not online. iguanazor
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01 Nov 2012 08:23 PM
Yes I did. All you did was compare it to previous Elder Scrolls games. You never once say how by itself it is a horrible game.
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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01 Nov 2012 08:35 PM
>All you did

I see one comparison to Morrowind in my OP and that's it.
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iguanazor is not online. iguanazor
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01 Nov 2012 08:40 PM
"Skyrim did away with attributes and a lot of stats"

"Skyrim has level scaling" (implies that the other games did not, which supposedly makes them better)

"Oblivion's smallest city had at least twenty [Bravil iirc]"

"There are only 9 types of weapons in Skyrim and two types of armor compared to Morrowind's 17 and 3 respectively."


And again, your OP does not explain at all how Skyrim is a "horrible game." All you do is say it is worse than previous Elder Scrolls games.

The only thing you establish that could even possibly be a reason for the game to be horrible is that the story is kind of bad.
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1995jam2 is not online. 1995jam2
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01 Nov 2012 08:41 PM
>play morrowind or oblivion and if you don't have more fun i'll be seriously surprised

Morrowind has aged horribly and most people I know won't touch the vanilla version. that being said it's still one of my favorite RPGs ever, but I'd rather someone starting TES to be playing Oblivion or Morrowind with a bunch of mods.

and on the grounds of Skyrim being a bad game, I spent hours on it having some sort of fun. I wouldn't place it on the same level as any other TES game, or even call it a TES game, but it was still fun. 5/10, even.
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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18 Nov 2012 03:15 PM
bump, skyrim kiddies are on

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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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18 Nov 2012 03:15 PM
just saw your post iguana, are you implying that those aren't real flaws just because they were compared to previous games? the TES defense force is pathetic

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spriteman122 is not online. spriteman122
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18 Nov 2012 03:25 PM
I wish you could just be the middle man in a guild, seriously EVERYONE got killed just because I wanted to join their guild
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Imperiatus is not online. Imperiatus
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18 Nov 2012 03:27 PM
That's why I like modded Mount and Blade Warband for that kind of stuff, you can be just a regular rank and file soldier that is just like everyone else around you until you decide you're ready to form your own army.

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MasterApex is not online. MasterApex
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29 Jul 2013 06:13 PM
You call it a bad game yet could you make something better?
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BingoWasHisNamo12 is not online. BingoWasHisNamo12
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29 Jul 2013 06:23 PM
I felt like I was reading Altiar's arguments all over again.
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Overrwatcher2 is not online. Overrwatcher2
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29 Jul 2013 06:24 PM
because this post is super old
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TheAsassin is not online. TheAsassin
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29 Jul 2013 06:24 PM
imperiatus is altair you idiot
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BingoWasHisNamo12 is not online. BingoWasHisNamo12
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29 Jul 2013 06:26 PM
Well, Altiar can't make up new arguments.




I don't pay attention to dates, damn it!
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