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Re: UAF Republic Manifesto

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Chaostic is not online. Chaostic
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24 Oct 2012 03:22 PM
[TL;DR warning: this is long, if you arent gonna read all of it, dont read any of it, and dont post.]

This is by no means an official document, it is an idea and a suggestion to be reviewed by members.
This is an explaination of a government system that would be far more effective that the complex series of ranks and subranks currently in use.

The republic will consist of three ruling parties, the presidential, legislative, and military. The presidential part is the leader, who has the ability to veto actions taken by either of the two parties. however, if both parties support an action, a veto is not accepted. the legislative part consists of 5 consuls whos job it is to handle non-combat activities, such as finances, recruitment, building, and clan relations. Each consul is in command of one of the five divisions:
Finances
Relations
Building
Advertisement and Design
Public Education

The military party branch in in charge of raids, defense, trainings, propoganda, and also contains a relations branch so that each part has a relations officer for their best intrests. for instance, if the legislative party wants to be peaceful towards a clan but the military insists hostility, they both have a representative.
The military branch consists of five consuls as well, with one controlling each division:
Strategy
Defense
Relations
Training & Preparedness
Weapons Development

when a bill is suggested, atleast three of the five legislature in both legislative and military parties must accept a bill for that bill to be voted a yes or no by that party.

Ranks are as follows:
___________________________Grunt ranks
Private
Private First Class
Corporal
Lance Corporal
Corporal First Class
Sergeant
Staff Sergeant
Master Sergeant
Sergeant First Class
____________________________ from here on are the officer ranks.

Second Lieutenant
First Lieutenant
Lieutenant First Class
Captain
Major
____________________________from here on are the highranks

Colonel [may represent a legislative consul vote]
General [may represent a military consul vote]
Military Consul
Legislative Console
Chairman [or president]

Upon reaching Corporal rank, members have to select a division to join in order to advance to Lance Corporal.
Consuls all have the ability to promote members, but only those who are in the party they control. for instance, a military consul cannot promote a member who is in a legislative branch.
The original constitution would undergo minor design changes to conform to this system.

Please comment any suggestions or ideas, and wheter you like the system or not.


-UAF Artisan/Colonel Chaostic, Head of Development
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GrimmReaper7 is not online. GrimmReaper7
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24 Oct 2012 03:26 PM
I actually asked if I could have a position of finance/economics in UCR the other day, as I do GCSE Economics and excel at such things.
I'm also aiming to help with Public Education/Training/Group Improvement.

Currently I'm an Intellect 1.

I like the idea, but I believe it should incorporate more of the current system we have in place.
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deceptional is not online. deceptional
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24 Oct 2012 03:27 PM
It isn't that long.
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GrimmReaper7 is not online. GrimmReaper7
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24 Oct 2012 03:28 PM
Also, I believe strategy comes under training from my perspective.
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COMANDERMILLER67 is not online. COMANDERMILLER67
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24 Oct 2012 03:28 PM
I didn't read any of it, and I posted, I didn't choose the thug life, the thug life chose me.

[{:Team Vaktus:}]
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stealthdestroyer100 is not online. stealthdestroyer100
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24 Oct 2012 03:36 PM
driving llama
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mario40005 is not online. mario40005
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24 Oct 2012 03:41 PM
If the new ranks are coming combat 1 and 2s are going to be upgraded to the last grunt rank?...
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Invidius is not online. Invidius
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24 Oct 2012 03:41 PM
To be honest I would probably vote against this particular system.
It reminds me too much of the United States Cabinet and Three Branch System.
We, UAF, are not trying to completely turn into an imitation of the U.S.
Not that the U.S. is bad of course, we just don't want to be their copy.

[UAFCOL] Invidius
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mario40005 is not online. mario40005
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24 Oct 2012 03:41 PM
PM me and read this above ^
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TazmanianDevil01 is not online. TazmanianDevil01
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24 Oct 2012 03:42 PM
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mario40005 is not online. mario40005
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24 Oct 2012 03:42 PM
we will proble be like x-101st ranks and we might get people ask for rank ups i mean really and i kinda agree with inv
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ButterflyGirl234 is not online. ButterflyGirl234
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24 Oct 2012 03:43 PM
I like the idea you have in mind and I especially like the idea of parties and one person to represent one (lets just say) sub division under the party.
I think you should include privileges for each rank, as I think there are too many ranks in the Grunt section that people may get bored of being in the lower ranks for too long. Especially as there are not as many high ranks in the British timezone, some may be stuck under the lower ranks for a while. So maybe like at the rank of Staff Sergeant you could be able to observe trainings ready for when you get to high ranks or something. That was just a quick example off the top of my head.

Overall I like the idea and would like to see it in the future time.
~Captain Butter
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mario40005 is not online. mario40005
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24 Oct 2012 04:06 PM
Since the voteing for a promo makes it harder which makes it more respective and rewarding when you get it
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stealthdestroyer100 is not online. stealthdestroyer100
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24 Oct 2012 04:18 PM
It's relative to some US systems. You would not be getting a vote from me.
Bad choice.
driving llama
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qweAj4707 is not online. qweAj4707
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24 Oct 2012 04:21 PM
Its 1st seargent then master seargent
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CabooseUGAN is not online. CabooseUGAN
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24 Oct 2012 04:35 PM
I've tried to introduce an Idea simular to this in the early MOOJL Era(I). but it was ignored.
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CabooseUGAN is not online. CabooseUGAN
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24 Oct 2012 04:38 PM
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Chaostic is not online. Chaostic
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24 Oct 2012 04:39 PM
its a three-party system, that is literally the only similarity to the US government.
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Falsewarrior000 is not online. Falsewarrior000
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24 Oct 2012 04:39 PM
It is well thought out, and a good concept, however, how easily integrated can it be, and how would this idea's pros and cons weigh up against the pros and cons of our current system?
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Chaostic is not online. Chaostic
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24 Oct 2012 04:44 PM
pros:
easily understood
more efficient ranking system
more specialized divisions
a working financial system
nobody begging for design and intellect rank
legitimate voting system
ranks can only be achieved if you do your specialized task
better communication amongst similar divisions
divisions are less independent and can be looked over (look what happened to PT)

cons:
we will have to get off out butts and change alot of stuff
not much else i can think of
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PieGuy305 is not online. PieGuy305
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24 Oct 2012 05:07 PM
I like the current system of ranking up because it allows more diversity: Intellectuals and Designers have a better chance at a higher rank than ever before. However, I LOVE the idea for a consulate.
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SirBackspace is not online. SirBackspace
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24 Oct 2012 05:09 PM
'Grunt', sounds demeaning
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Chaostic is not online. Chaostic
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24 Oct 2012 05:09 PM
@pie
with this system, all specialties are considered equal, your chances for ranking as intellect are the same as for finances or combat.
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Chaostic is not online. Chaostic
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24 Oct 2012 05:10 PM
'Grunt', sounds demeaning

_________________________


its an army term for ranks below that of the army officers, its not demeaning.
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PieGuy305 is not online. PieGuy305
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24 Oct 2012 05:12 PM
Besides, I put in an amendment that high ranks can put a member on one-month probation (No asking for rank-up) if they beg. Also, we need the Design and Intellect Ranks; there are still far more Combat Is and IIs than either of those. Lastly, I think that this is less original than our current system; the diversification is good, and I'd they beg, demote them.

What do you think of this idea: http://www.roblox.com/Forum/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=80642375
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